Camponotus species identification

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Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5376Post Voth24
Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:06 pm

Hello, everyone. I found what I think are three dealates in a heavily wooded park in the St. Louis area. Based on my rudimentary understanding of ants, I believe they belong to the genus Camponotus, but I have no idea how to figure out the species.

In addition, since this is my first time looking for queen ants, I'm not even convinced they're dealates. They're definitely bigger than the other Camponotus workers I've found in the area, and I think the thorax sizes are indicative of queen ants, but I'm going to doubt myself until I get some sort of outside verification. For all I know, they're workers from a bigger species of Camponotus. Also, examination under a magnifying glass makes me think I can see where the wings were ripped off, but it's hard to tell.

I apologize for the quality of the photos. My phone is notoriously bad at taking macro photos. The photos are all of the same ant:

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5381Post Voth24
Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:32 pm

Here are some somewhat better pictures:

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5382Post MadVampy
Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:31 am

Well based on the sizes of the thorax's I'd say yes they are queens. As far a species, I'm not sure. I'm new to other species besides solenopsis.
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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5383Post Voth24
Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:48 am

MadVampy wrote:Well based on the sizes of the thorax's I'd say yes they are queens. As far a species, I'm not sure. I'm new to other species besides solenopsis.
Thank you very much.

I was going to take a magnifying glass and try to determine the species myself, but I'm not sure I want to disturb them anymore than I already have.

Thanks again.

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5384Post Mdrogun
Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:29 pm

This is definitely a parasitic Lasius sp. of some sort.

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5387Post Voth24
Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:54 pm

Mdrogun wrote:This is definitely a parasitic Lasius sp. of some sort.
I have a total of four queens now, and I suppose it's possible they aren't all of the same genus. How can I tell the difference?

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5389Post Mdrogun
Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:52 pm

I could identify them for you.

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5390Post Voth24
Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:09 pm

Mdrogun wrote:I could identify them for you.
I've gone over them. They're definitely all the same. Well, shucks. I guess I'll attempt to introduce some workers, but I doubt a novice like me will be able to get them to take.

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5402Post Voth24
Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:45 pm

Just wanted to say that I'm convinced I have four Lasius umbratus queens. I was confused because I didn't think their nuptial flights were this early, but apparently there are Lasius umbratus dealates coming out of hibernation and wandering around.

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Re: Camponotus species identification

Post: # 5414Post Mdrogun
Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:13 pm

Your best bet is to dig up brood for them. If you introduce workers to them they will most likely fight.

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