Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

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SouthWesternAnts
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Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25345Post SouthWesternAnts
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:26 pm

Hi, I'm from the Western part of Texas near the city of El Paso and I just got into ant keeping this year. Just yesterday(July 7, 2017) after a thunderstorm I caught multiple dealated queens of different species. Some of them were found together in a claustral cell and others just wandering about in the ground. I'm unsure of what species they each are and if they are polygynous. Here are some of the best photos I could get with my camera(http://imgur.com/a/dzuLN).

Thank You.
Founding Colonies:
Pogonomyrmex rugosus
Pogonomyrmex barbatus
Solenopsis xyloni
Myrmecocystus mimicus
Pheidole sp
Dorymyrmex insanus

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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25352Post SouthWesternAnts
Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:53 pm

The first queen ant (http://imgur.com/9QDlrtM)(http://imgur.com/5koqvkl) and the group of two queens (http://imgur.com/nXrB3JE)(http://imgur.com/hkXkxnP) are around 12 mm in length and the group of three (http://imgur.com/1NEUYPX) are 6-8 mm. The last queen which is an orange color with wings (http://imgur.com/r3mIamB)(http://imgur.com/0Fgmuze) is also about 6-8mm in length.
Founding Colonies:
Pogonomyrmex rugosus
Pogonomyrmex barbatus
Solenopsis xyloni
Myrmecocystus mimicus
Pheidole sp
Dorymyrmex insanus

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Re: ID Request

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Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:13 am

Second Queens Are Something From The Myrmicinae Sub-Family.
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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25449Post SouthWesternAnts
Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:55 am

Phoenix wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:13 am
Second Queens Are Something From The Myrmicinae Sub-Family.
Thanks Phoenix! I actually found those two together in the same claustral cell. Do you know if they can live together?
Founding Colonies:
Pogonomyrmex rugosus
Pogonomyrmex barbatus
Solenopsis xyloni
Myrmecocystus mimicus
Pheidole sp
Dorymyrmex insanus

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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25458Post Batspiderfish
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:54 pm

Looks like Myrmecosystus sp., Pheidole sp., and the last two Dorymyrmex spp. The darker Dorymyrmex may be D. insanus.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25459Post SouthWesternAnts
Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:26 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:54 pm
Looks like Myrmecosystus sp., Pheidole sp., and the last two Dorymyrmex spp. The darker Dorymyrmex may be D. insanus.
Thanks! I didn't know I had caught a honeypot ant species. I have 3 right now; two together and one on its own. Should I place all 3 together or separate them? Should I kept the Pheidole queens together too?

Thank You.
Founding Colonies:
Pogonomyrmex rugosus
Pogonomyrmex barbatus
Solenopsis xyloni
Myrmecocystus mimicus
Pheidole sp
Dorymyrmex insanus

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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25460Post Batspiderfish
Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:31 pm

Keep what's already separate separate.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Multiple Queen Ants ID: El Paso, Texas 7/16/2017

Post: # 25469Post SouthWesternAnts
Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:16 pm

Thanks for all the help on identifying these queens. I hope I can gather some more this month.
Founding Colonies:
Pogonomyrmex rugosus
Pogonomyrmex barbatus
Solenopsis xyloni
Myrmecocystus mimicus
Pheidole sp
Dorymyrmex insanus

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