Identify this queen

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Darkhero0987
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Identify this queen

Post: # 46765Post Darkhero0987
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:50 pm

caught today not sure what she is she was caught fairly late in the day as well. sorry the pics are that good she did not want to be still

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Darkhero0987
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46768Post Darkhero0987
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:27 pm

Like to add I am from manitoba canada
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Thorond0r
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46792Post Thorond0r
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:42 am

I think that's a Tetramorium sp. queen
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46799Post idahoantgirl
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:30 am

Thorond0r wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:42 am
I think that's a Tetramorium sp. queen
No definetly not. I did a little google search... possibly Monomorium algiricum? I'm not super gifted in ID's yet tho
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46804Post Batspiderfish
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:12 am

Solenopsis molesta
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46805Post Thorond0r
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 am

idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:30 am
Thorond0r wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:42 am
I think that's a Tetramorium sp. queen
No definetly not. I did a little google search... possibly Monomorium algiricum? I'm not super gifted in ID's yet tho
What is it that makes you say this is not a tetramorium? Trying to learn ;)
First year of antkeeping, already enjoying it!

Currently founding:

Lasius niger
Lasius umbratus
Lasius flavus


Still hoping to find a Formica queen.

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idahoantgirl
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46808Post idahoantgirl
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:21 am

Thorond0r wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 am
idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:30 am
Thorond0r wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:42 am
I think that's a Tetramorium sp. queen
No definetly not. I did a little google search... possibly Monomorium algiricum? I'm not super gifted in ID's yet tho
What is it that makes you say this is not a tetramorium? Trying to learn ;)
It's hard to explain. I'm sure batspiderfish can tell you the technical differences in a heart beat, but with most of us you just kinda develop a "sixth sense" of being able to distiguish certain species in a heart beat, especially if you have kept that species. In this case the gaster on this queen is way too long to be tetramorium. Also tetramorium look kinda.... boxy... So yeah that's my very not technical answer... :lol:
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46850Post Thorond0r
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:23 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:21 am
Thorond0r wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 am
idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:30 am


No definetly not. I did a little google search... possibly Monomorium algiricum? I'm not super gifted in ID's yet tho
What is it that makes you say this is not a tetramorium? Trying to learn ;)
It's hard to explain. I'm sure batspiderfish can tell you the technical differences in a heart beat, but with most of us you just kinda develop a "sixth sense" of being able to distiguish certain species in a heart beat, especially if you have kept that species. In this case the gaster on this queen is way too long to be tetramorium. Also tetramorium look kinda.... boxy... So yeah that's my very not technical answer... :lol:
Hahaha, i get what you are saying and thanks for the explanation ;)
I'm just going to keep looking at all the ants that are posted here as well as those i can find in the field to build up my knowledge of genera so i can at least get the genus right xD
I'll keep the boxyness of tetramorium in the back of my head for next time :P
First year of antkeeping, already enjoying it!

Currently founding:

Lasius niger
Lasius umbratus
Lasius flavus


Still hoping to find a Formica queen.

Darkhero0987
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46877Post Darkhero0987
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:40 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:12 am
Solenopsis molesta
Thank you vary much are they full cloistral or not if I remember right they are ?
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Darkhero0987
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Re: Identify this queen

Post: # 46878Post Darkhero0987
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:42 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:12 am
Solenopsis molesta
Wait a seconded I just looked it up and Solenopsis molesta isnt native to my place in manitoba
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