Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

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Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92360Post LIExoticBreeders
Sun May 15, 2022 4:04 pm

Hey everyone. I know this is a common ant found everywhere in NY. But, I'm trying to figure out exactly which species it is.
https://imgur.com/gallery/k1CqMxn
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

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Sun May 15, 2022 7:08 pm

LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 4:04 pm
Hey everyone. I know this is a common ant found everywhere in NY. But, I'm trying to figure out exactly which species it is.
https://imgur.com/gallery/k1CqMxn
Thanks in advance.
Lasius aphidicola, temporary parasite queen

Here is antwiki page, she will need host workers to raise a colony(Should be listed on antwiki page)
https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Lasius_aphidicola
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92372Post LIExoticBreeders
Sun May 15, 2022 8:31 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 7:08 pm
LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 4:04 pm
Hey everyone. I know this is a common ant found everywhere in NY. But, I'm trying to figure out exactly which species it is.
https://imgur.com/gallery/k1CqMxn
Thanks in advance.
Lasius aphidicola, temporary parasite queen

Here is antwiki page, she will need host workers to raise a colony(Should be listed on antwiki page)
https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Lasius_aphidicola
Those are the small orange/ yellow colored ants correct? Now, I find these literally every single time I go out on an ant hunt. Can I grab 20 workers from a different established colony and put them with her? And which ones will she merge with? Because we've got larger ones that are more orange in color, and smaller ones that are more yellow in color. (Both of these I thought this entire time were citronella ants)
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92373Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun May 15, 2022 9:20 pm

LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:31 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 7:08 pm
LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 4:04 pm
Hey everyone. I know this is a common ant found everywhere in NY. But, I'm trying to figure out exactly which species it is.
https://imgur.com/gallery/k1CqMxn
Thanks in advance.
Lasius aphidicola, temporary parasite queen

Here is antwiki page, she will need host workers to raise a colony(Should be listed on antwiki page)
https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Lasius_aphidicola
Those are the small orange/ yellow colored ants correct? Now, I find these literally every single time I go out on an ant hunt. Can I grab 20 workers from a different established colony and put them with her? And which ones will she merge with? Because we've got larger ones that are more orange in color, and smaller ones that are more yellow in color. (Both of these I thought this entire time were citronella ants)
I think they need Lasius neoniger or Americanus, but her species may work. I will list some helpful links for you below. Sorry, I assumed the antwiki page would list host workers. My bad.

Wikipedia(Look at worker picture)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasius_umbratus

Guide on how to raise parasitic queens(These are temporary parasites)
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/10702-a-thorough-tutorial-on-raising-parasitic-and-slave-raiding-formica/

Sorry for the links, I am very inexperienced in parasitic queens, and don’t plan on looking for them. I do believe you can give her workers from any Lasius species, but I believe you are supposed to put her at 60 F for a bit(Not sure read formiculture guide)
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92377Post LIExoticBreeders
Sun May 15, 2022 10:37 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 9:20 pm
LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:31 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 7:08 pm


Lasius aphidicola, temporary parasite queen

Here is antwiki page, she will need host workers to raise a colony(Should be listed on antwiki page)
https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Lasius_aphidicola
Those are the small orange/ yellow colored ants correct? Now, I find these literally every single time I go out on an ant hunt. Can I grab 20 workers from a different established colony and put them with her? And which ones will she merge with? Because we've got larger ones that are more orange in color, and smaller ones that are more yellow in color. (Both of these I thought this entire time were citronella ants)
I think they need Lasius neoniger or Americanus, but her species may work. I will list some helpful links for you below. Sorry, I assumed the antwiki page would list host workers. My bad.

Wikipedia(Look at worker picture)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasius_umbratus

Guide on how to raise parasitic queens(These are temporary parasites)
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/10702-a-thorough-tutorial-on-raising-parasitic-and-slave-raiding-formica/

Sorry for the links, I am very inexperienced in parasitic queens, and don’t plan on looking for them. I do believe you can give her workers from any Lasius species, but I believe you are supposed to put her at 60 F for a bit(Not sure read formiculture guide)
Thanks. I will look into these. As well as do some more research tonight as well. I think tomorrow I'm gonna go and grab 20 or 30 of the lasius workers from another colony, and see what happens. I have 2 of these parasitic queens. So, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92382Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon May 16, 2022 7:00 am

LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 10:37 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 9:20 pm
LIExoticBreeders wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:31 pm


Those are the small orange/ yellow colored ants correct? Now, I find these literally every single time I go out on an ant hunt. Can I grab 20 workers from a different established colony and put them with her? And which ones will she merge with? Because we've got larger ones that are more orange in color, and smaller ones that are more yellow in color. (Both of these I thought this entire time were citronella ants)
I think they need Lasius neoniger or Americanus, but her species may work. I will list some helpful links for you below. Sorry, I assumed the antwiki page would list host workers. My bad.

Wikipedia(Look at worker picture)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasius_umbratus

Guide on how to raise parasitic queens(These are temporary parasites)
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/10702-a-thorough-tutorial-on-raising-parasitic-and-slave-raiding-formica/

Sorry for the links, I am very inexperienced in parasitic queens, and don’t plan on looking for them. I do believe you can give her workers from any Lasius species, but I believe you are supposed to put her at 60 F for a bit(Not sure read formiculture guide)
Thanks. I will look into these. As well as do some more research tonight as well. I think tomorrow I'm gonna go and grab 20 or 30 of the lasius workers from another colony, and see what happens. I have 2 of these parasitic queens. So, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Only introduce 1 at a time! It can be dangerous otherwise, and note, she will always kill the first worker(Or so I have heard) to gain nest scent
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92405Post LaniLyne0106
Mon May 16, 2022 8:23 pm

looks a lot like a Lasius Umbratus, might have to do a bit more research on the exact species. Ive read quite a bit on parasitic queens. Its best to gather lasius brood (larva and cocoons) and a few workers with it then have them raise up the larva. When they turn into cocoons give them to your queen. This is the safest way to get her lasius workers as some adult workers could potentially injure her in some way. Here's a helpful video on parasitic queens :)
https://youtu.be/Voj5lNlInL4
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• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92411Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon May 16, 2022 10:05 pm

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:23 pm
looks a lot like a Lasius Umbratus, might have to do a bit more research on the exact species. Ive read quite a bit on parasitic queens. Its best to gather lasius brood (larva and cocoons) and a few workers with it then have them raise up the larva. When they turn into cocoons give them to your queen. This is the safest way to get her lasius workers as some adult workers could potentially injure her in some way. Here's a helpful video on parasitic queens :)
https://youtu.be/Voj5lNlInL4
I just have a similar species, I am not near familiar with species in New England. I do believe those are similar care requirements, correct?
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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92413Post LaniLyne0106
Mon May 16, 2022 10:12 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 10:05 pm
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:23 pm
looks a lot like a Lasius Umbratus, might have to do a bit more research on the exact species. Ive read quite a bit on parasitic queens. Its best to gather lasius brood (larva and cocoons) and a few workers with it then have them raise up the larva. When they turn into cocoons give them to your queen. This is the safest way to get her lasius workers as some adult workers could potentially injure her in some way. Here's a helpful video on parasitic queens :)
https://youtu.be/Voj5lNlInL4
I just have a similar species, I am not near familiar with species in New England. I do believe those are similar care requirements, correct?
Correct
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• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: Long Island, NY. Caught during a nuptial flight.

Post: # 92414Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon May 16, 2022 10:15 pm

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 10:12 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 10:05 pm
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:23 pm
looks a lot like a Lasius Umbratus, might have to do a bit more research on the exact species. Ive read quite a bit on parasitic queens. Its best to gather lasius brood (larva and cocoons) and a few workers with it then have them raise up the larva. When they turn into cocoons give them to your queen. This is the safest way to get her lasius workers as some adult workers could potentially injure her in some way. Here's a helpful video on parasitic queens :)
https://youtu.be/Voj5lNlInL4
I just have a similar species, I am not near familiar with species in New England. I do believe those are similar care requirements, correct?
Correct
Ok, wanted to make sure I didn’t majorly mislead someone

My species isn’t even on the key :lol:

https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Key_to_New_England_Lasius
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