First wild queen
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First wild queen
My daughter and I just found this queen today, we are in Pueblo CO.
https://youtu.be/L_jVsTi9k7w
https://youtu.be/L_jVsTi9k7w
Re: First wild queen
Definitely looks like a queen to me, not sure about the species. I assume the container you have her in, was just a temporary housing?
She needs access to water.
She needs access to water.
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Re: First wild queen
It was temporary, we had just gotten home. I've had someone else suggest it could be a camponotus.
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Could very well be, but a detailed picture would be helpful. At this point I think she might be C. modoc but is hard to tell. If she is, she should be about 1.5 cm, with her legs dark redish and her gaster should have thin golden lines on it.PuebloCO420 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:00 amIt was temporary, we had just gotten home. I've had someone else suggest it could be a camponotus.
In the clip it looks more like she has wide silver bands on her gaster? I remember there is a species with similar markings, but I can't seem to find it in the known American Carpenter ants in the USA.
You might want to post something in the Camponotus Crew thread (see signature) I am sure everyone there will be happy to help you identify her.
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Re: First wild queen
Hey, volunteer identifier from the Camponotus Crew, Hawkeye posted for some back up.
Honestly I'd say it looks like Camponotus nearcticus, I'm basing that off of a few observations. The legs are a slightly lighter color than the rest of the body, the eyes are larger in proportion to the head than many other similar Camponotus species, and the gaster appears slightly more elongate than other similar species.
C. nearciticus is a bicolor species that also has dark variants that are very hard to distinguish as bicolor, and the queens are far less bicolor to boot (unlike C. novaeboracensis which is clearly bicolor across most of it's color variants).
C. modoc is a possibility too, like Hawkeye mentioned - which you would want to look for yellowish bands marking the end of each pair of sclerites (the exoskeletal plates on the abdomen).
Since CO has an abundance of morphologically similar Camponotus species, it'll be easier to tell which with the presence of workers, so I hope you join the Camponotus Crew and keep us posted if it is fertile and you decide to try to help it raise it's colony!
Honestly I'd say it looks like Camponotus nearcticus, I'm basing that off of a few observations. The legs are a slightly lighter color than the rest of the body, the eyes are larger in proportion to the head than many other similar Camponotus species, and the gaster appears slightly more elongate than other similar species.
C. nearciticus is a bicolor species that also has dark variants that are very hard to distinguish as bicolor, and the queens are far less bicolor to boot (unlike C. novaeboracensis which is clearly bicolor across most of it's color variants).
C. modoc is a possibility too, like Hawkeye mentioned - which you would want to look for yellowish bands marking the end of each pair of sclerites (the exoskeletal plates on the abdomen).
Since CO has an abundance of morphologically similar Camponotus species, it'll be easier to tell which with the presence of workers, so I hope you join the Camponotus Crew and keep us posted if it is fertile and you decide to try to help it raise it's colony!
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Re: First wild queen
Hello
Another Camponotus Crew member here...
What about camponotus herculeanus?
Knowing where you live might help too...
Another Camponotus Crew member here...
What about camponotus herculeanus?
Knowing where you live might help too...
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Camponotus Pennsylvanicus
Temnothorax ambiguus/curvispinosus (Acorn ant)
Lasius Interjectus (Larger citronella ant) with host workers: L. Americanus
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Camponotus Pennsylvanicus
Temnothorax ambiguus/curvispinosus (Acorn ant)
Lasius Interjectus (Larger citronella ant) with host workers: L. Americanus
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Re: First wild queen
Herculeanus has a red thorax. He's from Colorado I believe?
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Re: First wild queen
bit of googling i think it looks a lot like Camponotus laevigatus but it also looks like others too, ants need to start wearing name badges make this a lot easier
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs
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I thought about that species too, but that one is all black right? Well except for the markings and yellowish hairs of course. I thought in the clip her legs were redish?LasiusSapien wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:47 pmbit of googling i think it looks a lot like Camponotus laevigatus but it also looks like others too, ants need to start wearing name badges make this a lot easier
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Re: First wild queen
Hawkeye wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:54 pmI thought about that species too, but that one is all black right? Well except for the markings and yellowish hairs of course. I thought in the clip her legs were redish?LasiusSapien wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:47 pmbit of googling i think it looks a lot like Camponotus laevigatus but it also looks like others too, ants need to start wearing name badges make this a lot easier
picture i saw had brownish legs let me find it
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs
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