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Antlover41157
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Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97310Post Antlover41157
Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:37 pm

Let's create an ant keeping youtuber blacklist.

-Lightscamera ants
He made a video called "my r a ci s t ant colony" where he basiclly brood boosted with differnt species??? He brood boosted a camponotus colony that's black with some orange ants and they were killed when they encased.

D colony
Literaly puts colonies together. His video is defenitly not for ant serious ant keepers instead 7 year olds who wanted to see ant wars.

SYUTEO
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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97311Post SYUTEO
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:15 pm

Antlover41157 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:37 pm
Let's create an ant keeping youtuber blacklist.

-Lightscamera ants
He made a video called "my r a ci s t ant colony" where he basiclly brood boosted with differnt species??? He brood boosted a camponotus colony that's black with some orange ants and they were killed when they encased.

D colony
Literaly puts colonies together. His video is defenitly not for ant serious ant keepers instead 7 year olds who wanted to see ant wars.
For brood boosting with different species, it works with the right mix of ants, it has been done successfully many times, even Solenopsiskeeper who did it by accident. It usually only works with species in the same genus but in a few rare cases it worked with species of different genera excluding slave making ants, someone has got Crematogaster to accept Nylanderia brood. You can see more here https://www.formiculture.com/topic/19208-brood-boosting-with-different-genera/.

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97321Post Antlover41157
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm

It only works with slave raiding ants but those were camponotus and defenitly not slave raiders

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97327Post antperson24
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:31 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:15 pm
Antlover41157 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:37 pm
Let's create an ant keeping youtuber blacklist.

-Lightscamera ants
He made a video called "my r a ci s t ant colony" where he basiclly brood boosted with differnt species??? He brood boosted a camponotus colony that's black with some orange ants and they were killed when they encased.

D colony
Literaly puts colonies together. His video is defenitly not for ant serious ant keepers instead 7 year olds who wanted to see ant wars.
For brood boosting with different species, it works with the right mix of ants, it has been done successfully many times, even Solenopsiskeeper who did it by accident. It usually only works with species in the same genus but in a few rare cases it worked with species of different genera excluding slave making ants, someone has got Crematogaster to accept Nylanderia brood. You can see more here https://www.formiculture.com/topic/19208-brood-boosting-with-different-genera/.
Next to my house there is a colony of Formica with 2 different species in it, it is really cool!
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97329Post SYUTEO
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:55 pm

Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm
It only works with slave raiding ants but those were camponotus and defenitly not slave raiders
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/17986-photography-for-ac/#:~:text=please%20excuse%20the%20few%20discolor%20workers%20every%20now%20and%20then.%20I%20brood%20boosted%20in%20the%20beginning%20with%20the%20wrong%20species%E2%80%A6%20I%20had%20to%20because%20I%20was%20at%203%20workers%20left%2C%20and%20larvae%20were%20just%20spinning%20cocoons.%20Got%20a%20little%20freaked%20out%20and%20gave%20them%20mature%20discolor%20or%20similar%20species%20cocoons%20and%20it%20worked%20out. It does work sometimes but only with species within the same genus. The reason why it works is because they both have similar pheromones for communication and so the adult workers will (hopefully) take care of the pupae. Some ants are also xenobiotic which means two colonies can live together in the same nest but are not parasitic, here is the antwiki link: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Xenobiosis

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97330Post Antlover41157
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:16 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:55 pm
Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm
It only works with slave raiding ants but those were camponotus and defenitly not slave raiders
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/17986-photography-for-ac/#:~:text=please%20excuse%20the%20few%20discolor%20workers%20every%20now%20and%20then.%20I%20brood%20boosted%20in%20the%20beginning%20with%20the%20wrong%20species%E2%80%A6%20I%20had%20to%20because%20I%20was%20at%203%20workers%20left%2C%20and%20larvae%20were%20just%20spinning%20cocoons.%20Got%20a%20little%20freaked%20out%20and%20gave%20them%20mature%20discolor%20or%20similar%20species%20cocoons%20and%20it%20worked%20out. It does work sometimes but only with species within the same genus. The reason why it works is because they both have similar pheromones for communication and so the adult workers will (hopefully) take care of the pupae. Some ants are also xenobiotic which means two colonies can live together in the same nest but are not parasitic, here is the antwiki link: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Xenobiosis
Alr probably should include the youtube short
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnbdbDf3Ivs

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97333Post antperson24
Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:19 am

Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:16 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:55 pm
Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm
It only works with slave raiding ants but those were camponotus and defenitly not slave raiders
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/17986-photography-for-ac/#:~:text=please%20excuse%20the%20few%20discolor%20workers%20every%20now%20and%20then.%20I%20brood%20boosted%20in%20the%20beginning%20with%20the%20wrong%20species%E2%80%A6%20I%20had%20to%20because%20I%20was%20at%203%20workers%20left%2C%20and%20larvae%20were%20just%20spinning%20cocoons.%20Got%20a%20little%20freaked%20out%20and%20gave%20them%20mature%20discolor%20or%20similar%20species%20cocoons%20and%20it%20worked%20out. It does work sometimes but only with species within the same genus. The reason why it works is because they both have similar pheromones for communication and so the adult workers will (hopefully) take care of the pupae. Some ants are also xenobiotic which means two colonies can live together in the same nest but are not parasitic, here is the antwiki link: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Xenobiosis
Alr probably should include the youtube short
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnbdbDf3Ivs
Ugh, yes, I have seen that one it is so ridiculous! :x
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97338Post SYUTEO
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:45 am

Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:16 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:55 pm
Antlover41157 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm
It only works with slave raiding ants but those were camponotus and defenitly not slave raiders
https://www.formiculture.com/topic/17986-photography-for-ac/#:~:text=please%20excuse%20the%20few%20discolor%20workers%20every%20now%20and%20then.%20I%20brood%20boosted%20in%20the%20beginning%20with%20the%20wrong%20species%E2%80%A6%20I%20had%20to%20because%20I%20was%20at%203%20workers%20left%2C%20and%20larvae%20were%20just%20spinning%20cocoons.%20Got%20a%20little%20freaked%20out%20and%20gave%20them%20mature%20discolor%20or%20similar%20species%20cocoons%20and%20it%20worked%20out. It does work sometimes but only with species within the same genus. The reason why it works is because they both have similar pheromones for communication and so the adult workers will (hopefully) take care of the pupae. Some ants are also xenobiotic which means two colonies can live together in the same nest but are not parasitic, here is the antwiki link: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Xenobiosis
Alr probably should include the youtube short
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnbdbDf3Ivs
I already watched it before I even posted, although calling those ants like that is just rude.

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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97354Post SolenopsisKeeper
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Antlover41157 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:37 pm
Let's create an ant keeping youtuber blacklist.

-Lightscamera ants
He made a video called "my r a ci s t ant colony" where he basiclly brood boosted with differnt species??? He brood boosted a camponotus colony that's black with some orange ants and they were killed when they encased.

D colony
Literaly puts colonies together. His video is defenitly not for ant serious ant keepers instead 7 year olds who wanted to see ant wars.

First let me start with saying this is not my opinion just what you seem to be doing. Simply pointing out others flaws, despite mine.
You are calling out the youtubers, so you have clearly never made any mistakes.

Lights Camera Ants
First I will start by saying, sure its risky to brood boost. Secondly, C. castaneus and C. pennsylvanicus have very similar external feautures. It was a risk brood boosting them, sure. Sure, a few workers died to this act. So your saying you have never killed an ant on accident, never swatted a fly, and never killed anything unnecessarily. Okay, its possible. Brood boosting does work across species, and even across genera!!! Also, how many colonies has AC killed? I don't see you pointing his flaws out. Before pointing out flaws, how about do research about success rates? The title was literally for views. Name your video something like that, it gets more views in america.

D colony
See section below too!!D colony put two S invicta colonies together, and your telling me you have issues with him putting Polygynos ants together? Okay, thats screwed up. Sure, there was a risk of colony acceptance, but they are invasives, they still matter too! Wait, but its okay to boil invasive ants alive?(AntsCanada). Sure, his audience could be young, but how old do you think AntsCanada's audience is? Hm? You think his videos are targetting towards "serious" antkeepers? Everything is targetted to a younger audience, because more 7-yr olds like ants than 30 yr olds. Thats just logic. The community is so toxic on this topic it is sad. I am not advocating merging colonies, but I am saying it is rude to call people out just to call people out.


AntsCanada
Im not going to criticize him on his own forum, but he has done most of the things you mentioned were bad!


Overall, it seems you are doing this because
1) You have something emotionally against these youtubers who try to grow the hobby and entertain
2) You think your better than them
3) Your an attention loving person. If this is you, just move to twitter or facebook where you can get your desired attention.

You also don't know what is going on in their personal lives, but one thing is for sure, both this yotubers have more experience than you.
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: Ant keeping youtube channel blacklist

Post: # 97355Post SolenopsisKeeper
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:20 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:15 pm
Antlover41157 wrote:
Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:37 pm
Let's create an ant keeping youtuber blacklist.

-Lightscamera ants
He made a video called "my r a ci s t ant colony" where he basiclly brood boosted with differnt species??? He brood boosted a camponotus colony that's black with some orange ants and they were killed when they encased.

D colony
Literaly puts colonies together. His video is defenitly not for ant serious ant keepers instead 7 year olds who wanted to see ant wars.
For brood boosting with different species, it works with the right mix of ants, it has been done successfully many times, even Solenopsiskeeper who did it by accident. It usually only works with species in the same genus but in a few rare cases it worked with species of different genera excluding slave making ants, someone has got Crematogaster to accept Nylanderia brood. You can see more here https://www.formiculture.com/topic/19208-brood-boosting-with-different-genera/.
Exactly!! In honeypot ants, M. Placadops and M. mexicanus will even accept each others workers!!! It is true however, that cocoons and pupae that are 2-3 weeks away from hatching should be targeted for brood boosting
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