Hi all

Help with identifying the species your ants

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Blizzardess
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41007Post Blizzardess
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:51 pm

Thx a tonne. Ant mites I assume are not a problem for humans :?:
I'll re-watch the vid cause its been so long :lol:
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41008Post JustCliff
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:54 pm

Blizzardess wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:19 pm
Poor thing - treatment options?
https://www.youtube.com/user/AntsCanada/search?query=mite

Looks like Mikey might have 3 videos directly mentioning the mites, though a few more videos touch on them as well. Unfortunately I don't remember which have mite information.

The "cures" I remember are lemon slices and soil nests so the ants can naturally rid themselves of the mites. I was unaware there was a possibility of the lemons being unsafe as MorbidBugg mentioned but if you've got some time to check out how he deals with his infected colonies, it might at least familiarize you with them. Definitely gonna have to looking into this more as well.

There's multiple types of mites and they all aren't directly harmful but are merely hitching a ride, only dangerous in large numbers. The others actually slowly siphon from the infected ants and will eventually result in death. The rough part is identifying the mite, way harder than identifying ants.
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41010Post Blizzardess
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:13 pm

I have her in a small jar with some coconut "dirt" and a flat rock for honey (and water thing obviously. Usually not a good idea for a founding queen to not do the test tube tingy but A) if there is mites, hopefully she can shake 'em off B) sometimes gotta work with what you've got. :D
Has anyone ever tried the cricket water jellies with ants? Seems like it could be a good idea since it is designed for insects - both the drowning aspect and composition. Would be a relitively cheap and possibly cleaner option (no more moldy cotton balls!).
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41016Post Batspiderfish
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:16 pm

Blizzardess wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:16 am
Hi again,

I have updated the album but they are not that good pics. Caught her in an interesting pose though :lol: .

The only hair she seems to have is on those 2 bands on her rear, none elsewhere. She is completely black and shiny everywhere else, the lighter colour on her legs in some photos is just the shine from the light (see last photo of album).
You've noticed a very important identification feature when it comes to fusca-group Formica. I cannot see the queen well enough to confirm the identity with certainty, but if her antennal scapes (the long, first segment of the antennae) appear shorter than the total length of the head (excluding the mandibles), then two stripes of silvery hairs would indicate Formica glacialis (which probably doesn't exist that far west.)

Formica podzolica is the best possibility, but these have three bands of silvery hair.
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41024Post Blizzardess
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:54 pm

Thanks! Again learning here and doing my best at the research.

I was looking at glacialis earlier but the rear seemed to have a slightly different shape (maybe just the pic on ant wiki). According to the ant wiki they can be found in Alberta http://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Formica_glacialis - but I'll see if any other sites suggest it as well. The pic of the queen for the podzolica seems a bit hairy all over http://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Formica_podzolica - back to the drawing board with the ID? At least it is for sure formica :)

The first part of the antennae before the bend seem to be about the same length as the head without the mouth.
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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41025Post Batspiderfish
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:04 pm

Antwiki also thinks this Lasius aphidicolus queen is Lasius nearcticus:

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Re: Hi all

Post: # 41027Post Blizzardess
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:09 pm

:shock:
Meant no offence, I did believe you over the antwiki anyway. Just trying to help with what tools I can find and with what I can see. Its always best to leave it to the pros anyway. I can never be a doc with web MD just as I cant be a ant specialist with antwiki :)
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