Identify these queens

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ecwp1981
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 41777Post ecwp1981
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:16 am

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and any keeping, however, yesterday I managed to catch hundreds? of queens ants. My test tubes are on its way and I will be picking 20 of them for the testtubes. I think they are Lasius niger? a common black garden ant in the UK? If anyone can confirm, that will be great. Video link below:

https://youtu.be/kyY5YVh5EtE

Also if anyone near me wants some, please feel free to come over to collect them :D I dont think I have that many space for so many colonies lol.

ClashOwenBash
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Location: Oxford, England

Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 41886Post ClashOwenBash
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:33 am

ecwp1981 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:16 am
Hello everyone, I am new to this forum and any keeping, however, yesterday I managed to catch hundreds? of queens ants. My test tubes are on its way and I will be picking 20 of them for the testtubes. I think they are Lasius niger? a common black garden ant in the UK? If anyone can confirm, that will be great. Video link below:

https://youtu.be/kyY5YVh5EtE

Also if anyone near me wants some, please feel free to come over to collect them :D I dont think I have that many space for so many colonies lol.
Hard to tell exact species as no close-up but as you are from UK I'm certain their Lasius Niger as they are so common currently.
Currently caring for a Lasius Niger colony :D

Founding: :)
Lasius Niger
Lasius Flavus
Myrmica Rubra

ecwp1981
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Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 43432Post ecwp1981
Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:09 am

ClashOwenBash wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:33 am
Hard to tell exact species as no close-up but as you are from UK I'm certain their Lasius Niger as they are so common currently.
Thanks, I think I can safely say that they are Lasius Niger after lots of interaction and moving about 50 of them over to the test tube setups. After spending most of my life time killing ants, this is the first time I am caring for them and having them for pets and they are very fascinating, cleaning themselves, drinking from water droplets (I never seen ants drink before), as well as the queens laying eggs and looking after them.

Lets hope the ones that are test tubed will make it and have litters of their own. I might sell them off to hobbyist and keep 1 or two myself. Thinking of looking for some Myrmica Rubra now but they don't seem to be as common as the L.niger

ClashOwenBash
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 45540Post ClashOwenBash
Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:57 am

Ants are interesting. I find Myrmica Rubra colonies are actually more common than you think. Just look around for the workers. As for nuptial flights they are normally later than L.Niger's. However I've never seen one as I am almost always away during August and early September:(
Currently caring for a Lasius Niger colony :D

Founding: :)
Lasius Niger
Lasius Flavus
Myrmica Rubra

nightshadow
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46251Post nightshadow
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm

Hello I am from Quebec - Montreal area. I found 2 species of black ant queen. I would like to identify them. One is taller, about 20 mm. the egg are white yellowish. The other queen is smaller, about 11mm. on its back, there is a kind of translucide stripe. her eggs are pure white color.

Big Queen

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Small Queen:

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Can you help me with those ?

MegaDedys
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46373Post MegaDedys
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:04 am

Hi AC Family!
I try to catch this "queen" yesterday and i have a big question, is that a queen, i guess not ... but i wait your decizion
Thanks
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AntsDakota
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46408Post AntsDakota
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:07 pm

nightshadow wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Hello I am from Quebec - Montreal area. I found 2 species of black ant queen. I would like to identify them. One is taller, about 20 mm. the egg are white yellowish. The other queen is smaller, about 11mm. on its back, there is a kind of translucide stripe. her eggs are pure white color.

Big Queen

ImageImage

Small Queen:

ImageImage

Can you help me with those ?
Queen one is Camponotus pennsylvanicus (Black Carpender ant) and queen 2 is a Formica species, (Field ant) most likely subsericea. I am keeping both.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

nightshadow
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46416Post nightshadow
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:02 pm

Thank you AntsDakota, I thought the small one could be lasius niger but Formica make sense.

AntsDakota
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46427Post AntsDakota
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:17 pm

nightshadow wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:02 pm
Thank you AntsDakota, I thought the small one could be lasius niger but Formica make sense.
Lasius niger is actually rare in North America. Any black ant that looks like Lasius niger is actually Lasius americanus.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

TheRealAntMan
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Re: Identify these queens

Post: # 46434Post TheRealAntMan
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:20 pm

AntsDakota wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:17 pm
nightshadow wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:02 pm
Thank you AntsDakota, I thought the small one could be lasius niger but Formica make sense.
Lasius niger is actually rare in North America. Any black ant that looks like Lasius niger is actually Lasius americanus.
Actually they are more common than you think. The only way to tell for sure is by close examination of the antennae (counting the segments).
An ants' strength can be rivaled by few animals compared to relative body size.

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