Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

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NKantsalberta
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Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40006Post NKantsalberta
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:19 pm

Found this winged alate climbing up my wall. Dark red head and thorax reddish black gastor. About one cm long. There was a golden orange winged ant in my house earlier today, possibly a male of this species? I have only seen one of each today, could these be last years? Or is it just a sporatic flight for this species? Any help in identifying the species would be much appreciated! Also, is she fully or semi claustral, and I hope she is not a parasite queen... :shock: :oops:

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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40008Post Batspiderfish
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:34 am

We would need to see the front of the head.
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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40084Post NKantsalberta
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:00 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:34 am
We would need to see the front of the head.
The best shot I could get...

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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40110Post Batspiderfish
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:00 pm

I couldn't tell which species she is by the pictures, but definitely a social parasite. As long as she is not one of the dependent raiding species from the sanguinea group (she would have a hairlip-like notch on her clypeus) then it should be relatively easy to keep her, so far as social parasites go. Formica are able to open cocoons, which this queen would only need about 6.
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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40122Post AntsDakota
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:27 pm

I hope I could find a Formica social parasite. S.D. has plenty of species, including F. dakotensis. (Would especially like to keep that one.)
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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 40150Post NKantsalberta
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:12 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:00 pm
I couldn't tell which species she is by the pictures, but definitely a social parasite. As long as she is not one of the dependent raiding species from the sanguinea group (she would have a hairlip-like notch on her clypeus) then it should be relatively easy to keep her, so far as social parasites go. Formica are able to open cocoons, which this queen would only need about 6.
Thank you for your input! I will attempt to keep her and see what happens
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Re: Formica Sp or Obscuripes?

Post: # 41651Post NKantsalberta
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:42 pm

NKantsalberta wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:12 pm
Batspiderfish wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:00 pm
I couldn't tell which species she is by the pictures, but definitely a social parasite. As long as she is not one of the dependent raiding species from the sanguinea group (she would have a hairlip-like notch on her clypeus) then it should be relatively easy to keep her, so far as social parasites go. Formica are able to open cocoons, which this queen would only need about 6.
Thank you for your input! I will attempt to keep her and see what happens
Unfortunately this queen passed while I was away on vacation, no pupae were opened either :(
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