Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

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AntsRomania1999
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Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38470Post AntsRomania1999
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:22 pm

Hello guys !
I just caught a queen and i want to know what specie should be .
date : 21.06.2018
measure: around 8-9 mm
She has a thorax wich have a dark red color on the surface,red on the sides, legs brownis-yellow
Here are some pictures ;
https://imgur.com/a/6f4TeS7
Thanks in advance ! :D
My colonies :
lasius niger x3
formica cunicularia
tetramorium sp x2
myrmica sp (founding)

My dream species -- Polyergus rufescens

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Re: Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38474Post Batspiderfish
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:49 pm

Lasius emarginatus is another possibility, but Lasius are very difficult to ID without close details like hair coverage and the teeth on the mandibles. Coloration is often not enough.
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AntsRomania1999
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Re: Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38478Post AntsRomania1999
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:08 pm

Thanks for the response ! :D
From what I know lasius brunneus workers are different from lasius emarginatus, so after the nanitics arrive is possible to tell wich specie is it ?
My colonies :
lasius niger x3
formica cunicularia
tetramorium sp x2
myrmica sp (founding)

My dream species -- Polyergus rufescens

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Re: Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38479Post Batspiderfish
Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:23 pm

The workers may be as non-distinct as the queen. I would only rely on the anatomical details, like hair coverage on the antennae. Lasius brunneus are like Lasius alienus in that they have no erect hairs on their antennal scapes (the first, long antennal segment). Lasius emarginatus, on the other hand, has lots of bristly hairs that stick straight out. That may help distinguish between those two, at least.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38510Post AntsRomania1999
Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:12 am

Thanks again for the response ! :)
Do you have any idea how to take a proper picture of that queen ?
My colonies :
lasius niger x3
formica cunicularia
tetramorium sp x2
myrmica sp (founding)

My dream species -- Polyergus rufescens

AntsRomania1999
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Re: Romania,Suceava,21.06.2018,queen ant ID

Post: # 38623Post AntsRomania1999
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:34 am

Here are some better pictures :
https://imgur.com/a/WwilKuj
My colonies :
lasius niger x3
formica cunicularia
tetramorium sp x2
myrmica sp (founding)

My dream species -- Polyergus rufescens

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