Page 1 of 1

Help identifying queen

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:06 pm
by hellofromargentina
hi, im new here and fairly new to ant keeping. I catched a queen ant 5 months ago and i wanted help identifying her species. if anyone can help me i'll be very gratefull. here i leave some specs to help figuring it out:
photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxCAxUF3mSw1zv298
locality: Buenos Aires, Argentina. in my backyard.
date that i cought her: 29/12/2017
body length: 10mm
if you need any more information just ask for it.
Thank you very much :D .

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:53 pm
by BleedingRaindrops
Can you get some high focus shots of her head with better lighting? There are a lot of small details there that can help narrow it down.

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:37 am
by hellofromargentina
BleedingRaindrops wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 11:53 pm
Can you get some high focus shots of her head with better lighting? There are a lot of small details there that can help narrow it down.
I'll try to get an actual camera and brb :lol:, thanks

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:35 pm
by hellofromargentina
BleedingRaindrops wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 11:53 pm
Can you get some high focus shots of her head with better lighting? There are a lot of small details there that can help narrow it down.
im sorry, this is all i could get https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ywj2grV2M7GMD3JZ8

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:10 pm
by Batspiderfish
Probably Pheidole, but difficult to tell without better detail.

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:01 pm
by BleedingRaindrops
Batspiderfish wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 4:10 pm
Probably Pheidole, but difficult to tell without better detail.
I wondered about Pheidole, but I didn't think they got that big. Largest Pheidole queen I've ever seen was 8mm.

Also welcome back.

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:28 pm
by Proverbs66
Maybe its a species of Formica due to how glossy the exoskeleton is

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:09 pm
by Batspiderfish
Proverbs66 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:28 pm
Maybe its a species of Formica due to how glossy the exoskeleton is
Since this queen has two petiole nodes (waist segments), that would put her in the Myrmicinae subfamily (acorn ants, harvester ants, fire ants, etc.) Formica have one petiole node and belong to Formicinae (carpenter ants, rover ants, crazy ants.) Formica are also not present in South America, nor in most of the southern hemisphere.

Re: Help identifying queen

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 pm
by Proverbs66
Batspiderfish wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:09 pm
Proverbs66 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:28 pm
Maybe its a species of Formica due to how glossy the exoskeleton is
Since this queen has two petiole nodes (waist segments), that would put her in the Myrmicinae subfamily (acorn ants, harvester ants, fire ants, etc.) Formica have one petiole node and belong to Formicinae (carpenter ants, rover ants, crazy ants.) Formica are also not present in South America, nor in most of the southern hemisphere.
I see, lol I guess I still have a lot to learn