Southern Cali Worker ID

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BleedingRaindrops
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Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35570Post BleedingRaindrops
Tue May 01, 2018 5:35 pm

I was camping out in the Mojave desert and I spotted these girls in the dry rocky soil.
http://imgur.com/a/3gD7iv7

I don't have an accurate way to measure them out here but against the width of my Pinkie (~10cm) I would say the largest majors are 6mm and the smallest majors are 3mm.

The nest entrance is burrowed down rather than built up (like a funnel instead of a mound) which I found odd, but maybe it's to do with the environment.

Can anyone ID them for me?
Ants kept
Nylanderia sp.
Camponotus sp.
Paratrechina Longicornis
Pheidole sp.

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antnest8
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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35573Post antnest8
Tue May 01, 2018 7:28 pm

looks like formica sp.

Delphie
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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35593Post Delphie
Thu May 03, 2018 3:16 am

I'm thinking Pheidole sp.

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antnest8
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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35600Post antnest8
Thu May 03, 2018 5:37 am

sorry i agree they look like Pheidole but that major does not have a big head is that only for certain Pheidole species

averagebilly
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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35604Post averagebilly
Thu May 03, 2018 8:59 am

When I look at those photos, I think Harvester ant. I don't know the scientific name, though. :oops:
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BleedingRaindrops
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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35608Post BleedingRaindrops
Thu May 03, 2018 1:16 pm

I would say definitely not Pheidole simply because of the color. Pheidole (at least the various species I've seen) tend to have a rough exoskeleton that is bright red or brown in color. These are smooth, shiny, and jet black, and their head shape isn't even close to Pheidole

Harvester ants sounds plausible. I didn't know they came in black but a Google search for black harvester ant returned Messor pergandei which is a species native to the deserts of southern california. They look very similar too.
Ants kept
Nylanderia sp.
Camponotus sp.
Paratrechina Longicornis
Pheidole sp.

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Re: Southern Cali Worker ID

Post: # 35732Post Canadiananter
Mon May 07, 2018 9:13 pm

Definetly Veromessor pergandei

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