Queen ID Eastern Ontario

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Rhetorik
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Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34743Post Rhetorik
Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:25 pm

4 queens caught late in the season (mid September I think).

8-9 mm
Black bodies / redish legs
Found in Ottawa Ont.
Im guessing Crematogaster sp.
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Hope thats enough for a positive id.
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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34746Post AntsDakota
Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:34 pm

Crematogaster lineolata.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34750Post Rhetorik
Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:20 pm

Thank you

1 more

Light brown
Caught august-September
5-6 mm
Perferring peanut butter

Couldn't get a great angle, hope the workers will help with id.

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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34762Post antnest8
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:37 pm

why do you have queens together they are not polygenous
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34767Post Rhetorik
Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:51 am

antnest8 wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:37 pm
why do you have queens together they are not polygenous
Apparently there have been cases of polygenous colonies, doing my own little experiment. I have a feeling 2 of them may stop laying eggs and act as workers or they may be forced out once the colony reaches a certain size.

http://www.myrmecos.net/2013/05/09/crematogaster-lineolata-is-polygynous-i-wish-a-had-a-better-photograph/
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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34793Post antnest8
Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:37 am

hmm it would be an interesting experiment but be careful crematogaster is a harder species to find. keep us updated on the progress
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34899Post Rhetorik
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:49 pm

Will do

So far they haven't done much, tending to the eggs and grooming each other. They're put away now and I'll check on them in a month.

Hoping to get an ID on the possible tetrimorium in this thread...bump
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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34923Post AntsDakota
Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:12 pm

Rhetorik wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:20 pm
Thank you

1 more

Light brown
Caught august-September
5-6 mm
Perferring peanut butter

Couldn't get a great angle, hope the workers will help with id.

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The workers and queen look like Temnothorax (acorn ant) or Leptothorax (no common name). The queen looks like Tetramorium, but the workers do not, so they couldn't be Tetramorium. And different species don't get along so well.

And queens don't lay eggs of different species! :lol:
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 34925Post Rhetorik
Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:16 pm

AntsDakota wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:12 pm

The workers and queen look like Temnothorax (acorn ant) or Leptothorax (no common name). The queen looks like Tetramorium, but the workers do not, so they couldn't be Tetramorium. And different species don't get along so well.

And queens don't lay eggs of different species! :lol:
Lol thank you AntsDakota

Very likely it's Temnothorax curvispinosus, explains the peanut butter and nesting in the cotton.
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Re: Queen ID Eastern Ontario

Post: # 35104Post AntsDakota
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:20 pm

antnest8 wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:37 pm
why do you have queens together they are not polygenous
If they're getting along, they will probably make it through the founding stage at least. And maybe they could be polygynous, even though we haven't discovered it yet. Remember our conversation about my Lasius queens? So this might be a new discovery! Keep going!
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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