Is that a lasius niger?

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FantasticKru
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Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 34579Post FantasticKru
Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:28 am

I have cought 2 queens, 1 with wings and one without wings.
I am 99% sure that does are lasius niger queens, but i want to be 100% sure.
i live in israel so the start of the flights are starting around 1 month before the flights of europe start.
can you tell me if that is a lasius niger queen? i want to be 100% sure and not 99% sure.
i took a picture only of the queen without the wings.

images:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZYwoapSyLwjI2A078-nLLFdnKMU0r7wi
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JTGh6gcxeOtcrENn4N7eyqD-4Ww6O_aH

PTasker15
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 34721Post PTasker15
Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:52 pm

Nope.They Are In The Lasius Genus.Probbably Lasius Neoniger.
Colonies:
1 Tetramourium Binarcairtum
1 Crematogaster Biroi
Founding:
3 Camponotus Deciepens
7 Camponotus Ceastaus
1 Strumigenys Rogeri
1 Dormyrmex Bureni
6 Nylanderia Terricola
4 Brachymyrmex Pataginicus
Dream Species-Atta Texana

Delphie
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 34784Post Delphie
Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:16 pm

There are a number of Lasius sp in Israel but neither of them apper to be niger or neoniger. There is a useful document here. The pictures are not clear enough to allow a 100% identification.
www.entomology.org.il/sites/default/files/pdfs/Vonshak-IJE39.pdf

idahoantgirl
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 34787Post idahoantgirl
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:59 pm

Note that sites like these are not complete nor necessarily accurate
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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antnest8
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 34796Post antnest8
Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:48 am

it looks like neoniger because the gastor is longer and in that shape
keeper of
1 lasius umbratus
8 tetremorium queens
3 C. pennsylvanicus
3 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony

AntsDakota
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 35370Post AntsDakota
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:04 pm

PTasker15 wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:52 pm
Nope.They Are In The Lasius Genus.Probbably Lasius Neoniger.
Lasius neoniger do not live in Asia, Africa, Europe, or Australia. Only in North America.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

AntsDakota
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Re: Is that a lasius niger?

Post: # 35371Post AntsDakota
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:07 pm

antnest8 wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:48 am
it looks like neoniger because the gastor is longer and in that shape
Lasius neoniger and alienus queens look almost identical, yet L. alienus lives in Israel Asia, and L. neoniger does not.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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