Red Queen, Oregon

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SamuelMamuel
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Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25852Post SamuelMamuel
Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:09 pm

Found her on my patio. She is red with a black abdomen. I am thinking camponautus. About 1 cm long. I thought she was just a worker at first, but her back is flat and she is for sure a queen.
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Colonies:
--Tetramorium Caespitum
--Camponotus pennsylvanicus
--Formica Sp.

Antsinohio

Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25867Post Antsinohio
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:07 pm

Its Camponotus floridanus or formica integroides.

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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25879Post SamuelMamuel
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:40 pm

Antsinohio wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:07 pm
Its Camponotus floridanus or formica integroides.
Well I'm in Oregon and that species of Camponautus are only in and near Florida. I have some better pictures if that would help.
Colonies:
--Tetramorium Caespitum
--Camponotus pennsylvanicus
--Formica Sp.

Antsinohio

Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25880Post Antsinohio
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:50 pm

Ok post them and i will double check and see if i can figure it out

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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25883Post SamuelMamuel
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:12 pm

Antsinohio wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:50 pm
Ok post them and i will double check and see if i can figure it out
Hope these help.
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Colonies:
--Tetramorium Caespitum
--Camponotus pennsylvanicus
--Formica Sp.

Antsinohio

Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25886Post Antsinohio
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:22 pm

How long is she?

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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25888Post Jadeninja9
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:44 pm

I agree with Formica integroides
Keeper of:
1x Camponotus Hyatti
1x Lasius alienus colonies
1x Tetramorium immigrans

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Batspiderfish
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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25889Post Batspiderfish
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:47 pm

A Formica social parasite of some sort. Can't tell the species from these pictures. She will need some Formica pupae.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25890Post SamuelMamuel
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:59 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:47 pm
A Formica social parasite of some sort. Can't tell the species from these pictures. She will need some Formica pupae.
What does that mean? Sorry mate, only got the ant basics down
Colonies:
--Tetramorium Caespitum
--Camponotus pennsylvanicus
--Formica Sp.

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Re: Red Queen, Oregon

Post: # 25894Post Batspiderfish
Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:08 pm

To save the trouble of looking it up: A social parasite is a species which depends on the workers of another species or colony for some duration of the parasite species' existence. Parasitic Formica are temporary social parasites which usually drive out or kill the adult members of a small Formica host colony and care for the brood/pupae left behind. Those host workers help to raise the parasitic queen's first brood. By using this strategy, queens become much less expensive for a colony produce and also turns a potential competitor into the beginning of the queen's own parasitic colony.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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