2 more queens needing ID...

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xTNxANTMANx
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2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23181Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:39 pm

These were caught yesterday June 16 around noon. These first pics are of the bigger queens (actually caught 2 of them :-) ) She is closer to 11mm...the other is just a hair over 10mm...
#1 queen(s)
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This next girl is 7mm. She absolutely would not cooperate with me lol but these are the best I took so far...
#2 queen
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Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23188Post Batspiderfish
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:01 pm

Formica pallidefulva group queens, and Lasius umbratus.
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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23191Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:14 pm

So they are Formica....alright! Just caught a 3rd when I was getting in my car. And the Lasius...is she a parasite?
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23192Post Batspiderfish
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:33 pm

xTNxANTMANx wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:14 pm
So they are Formica....alright! Just caught a 3rd when I was getting in my car. And the Lasius...is she a parasite?
Lasius umbratus is one of the easier social parasites to keep: http://antfarm.yuku.com/topic/19628#.WUWRqNwpCUl
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23195Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:39 pm

Also, the Formica...if there was another species you would say, what would it be? I will have to double check when I get back home but I don't think recall seeing a petolie (I know I spelt that wrong...). I may have just not looked hard enough
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23198Post Batspiderfish
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:44 pm

All ants have petioles, and I can see hers in the third picture.

The pallidefulva group is difficult to identify without a lot of detail. The four most likely species are F. dolosa, F. pallidefulva, F. incerta, and F. biophilica.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

xTNxANTMANx
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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23199Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:47 pm

Oh okay. Like I said I may have just overlooked it but I will double check them when I get home. I'll also see if I can identify where the hairs are located. Once again I appreciate your help. For some reason I was thinking some ants didn't have any LOL. I guess because they're just not as prominent as what some ants are
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

xTNxANTMANx
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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23200Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:50 pm

Also could you check out this video and see if you can tell me what species this is? I called her from her nest just to see what species she is and put her back a couple days ago. I couldn't get a decent picture cuz she wouldn't sit still and I didn't want to hold on to her too long. I believe it to be a Lasius species.
https://youtu.be/x4vrleHSWWY
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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Batspiderfish
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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23201Post Batspiderfish
Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:06 pm

Pictures and a measurement are kind of important. The quality of videos is generally pretty low.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: 2 more queens needing ID...

Post: # 23202Post xTNxANTMANx
Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:12 pm

Yeah I know but like I said I didn't want to keep her but just a couple minutes and she wouldn't sit still for a picture. She was also roughly around 8 - 10 mm I would say. Probably closer to 10. The queen in the video that is. I tried getting pictures at first but she just absolutely wouldn't stop moving. You don't have to watch the video if you don't want to and I'll just try and get a worker from the nest and get pictures that way.
Keeping:
Camponotus subbarbatus
Formica pallidefulva x2
Formica subsericea x4
Lasius sp
Tetramorium immigrans x2
Dorymyrmex bureni

Founding:
Formica pallidefulva
Unknown sp x2

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