Ant Queen Identification Lasius Species

[oniraigeki]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

[Antlover41157]

interesting, maybe the yellow "rare" one is Lasius pallitarsis and the "common" one is neoniger?

[oniraigeki]

interesting, maybe the yellow "rare" one is Lasius pallitarsis and the "common" one is neoniger?

but in the antmap you cant see information about Lasius Pallitarsis in Canada, in the other hand the Lasius Brevicornis has some similitudes with the rare one, but is confusing for me understand how to see the differences and identify...

[Antlover41157]

interesting, maybe the yellow "rare" one is Lasius pallitarsis and the "common" one is neoniger?

but in the antmap you cant see information about Lasius Pallitarsis in Canada, in the other hand the Lasius Brevicornis has some similitudes with the rare one, but is confusing for me understand how to see the differences and identify...

Try this maybe? https://antwiki.org/wiki/Key_to_Lasius_queens

[oniraigeki]

interesting, maybe the yellow "rare" one is Lasius pallitarsis and the "common" one is neoniger?

but in the antmap you cant see information about Lasius Pallitarsis in Canada, in the other hand the Lasius Brevicornis has some similitudes with the rare one, but is confusing for me understand how to see the differences and identify...

Try this maybe? https://antwiki.org/wiki/Key_to_Lasius_queens

Thanks this website has a lot information but is dificult to determine the genus if you dont have a Microscope.

[AntsAntsAnts]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

i believe that the yellow one is a Lasius brevicornis queen. they have very different colour shades so its a bit hard to tell but some of their queens are yellow

[oniraigeki]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

i believe that the yellow one is a Lasius brevicornis queen. they have very different colour shades so its a bit hard to tell but some of their queens are yellow

I am thinking the same idea

[antperson24]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

The common one is defiantly Lasius neoniger.

[oniraigeki]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

The common one is defiantly Lasius neoniger.

Thanks for answer me, I confuse with Niger, Neoniger and Americanus in this genre.

[antperson24]

Hello Guys, I found a group of 7 Queens the past September 20th in Mississauga, 2022, in the pictures you can see 2 Queens, the messure is about 0.7 to 0.9 CM. Both are very shy, by characteristic, for sure are Lasius, but I need to Identify because at same day I got one very different, you can see that one has more dark the other one, for that reason I need you support in this subject, it is possible that must be different families or is the same lasius but with a variant of color?. I Add a picture below, I appreciate your help...

The rare one:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238785361677&set=pcb.142238858695003

The common one wit the other 5:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=142238815361674&set=pcb.142238858695003

The comparison together:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=142238808695008&set=a.142238848695004

I appreciate your help and my best regards!!!

The common one is defiantly Lasius neoniger.

Thanks for answer me, I confuse with Niger, Neoniger and Americanus in this genre.

I'm not sure how to id L. americanus, but L. neoniger is only in north America, were as L. niger is only in Europe.