And Another Species ID Help, please

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seadawg84
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And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96857Post seadawg84
Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:30 pm

Size: around 7mm
When: sometime around 3:30pm EST on 02October2022
Where: Walking around on a recently (24 hours prior) created mound of dirt near a pond and lots of trees and fallen logs, and other pond stuff
Appearance: dark gaster, red-brown/light brown rest of the body, decent sized head compared to body.
Behaviour: very active and always running around. Hardly ever sits still.
Picture(s): Again, couldn't get a very good picture of her as she hardly stood still. So I took a video as well.

https://imgur.com/YX42Wuc
https://imgur.com/XNOj70M
https://imgur.com/7uydtje
https://imgur.com/JsWac8A
https://imgur.com/Sk1ABRl
https://imgur.com/MZevUt2

I'm thinking she's a pheidole sp. queen, but again, I'm not certain she's a queen and I'm not certain she's pheidole. It'd be cool if I got another new species (I already have a pheidole) as that would bring my total up to 5 different species of queens in 2 months of actively searching.

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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96873Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:57 pm

seadawg84 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:30 pm
Size: around 7mm
When: sometime around 3:30pm EST on 02October2022
Where: Walking around on a recently (24 hours prior) created mound of dirt near a pond and lots of trees and fallen logs, and other pond stuff
Appearance: dark gaster, red-brown/light brown rest of the body, decent sized head compared to body.
Behaviour: very active and always running around. Hardly ever sits still.
Picture(s): Again, couldn't get a very good picture of her as she hardly stood still. So I took a video as well.

https://imgur.com/YX42Wuc
https://imgur.com/XNOj70M
https://imgur.com/7uydtje
https://imgur.com/JsWac8A
https://imgur.com/Sk1ABRl
https://imgur.com/MZevUt2

I'm thinking she's a pheidole sp. queen, but again, I'm not certain she's a queen and I'm not certain she's pheidole. It'd be cool if I got another new species (I already have a pheidole) as that would bring my total up to 5 different species of queens in 2 months of actively searching.
Probably Lasius
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seadawg84
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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96874Post seadawg84
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:15 pm

What’s the likelihood she’s a parasitic species of lasius?

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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96875Post Antlover41157
Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:22 pm

Not sure but not impossible since most parasitic species have long legs as well as being very active

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96878Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:47 am

seadawg84 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:15 pm
What’s the likelihood she’s a parasitic species of lasius?
Lower looks claustral but a top view pic would confirm
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seadawg84
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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96879Post seadawg84
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:53 am

So, completely straight top-down view?

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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96889Post OiledOlives
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:45 pm

Lasius aphidicola, a temporary parasite.
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seadawg84
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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96917Post seadawg84
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:15 pm

I finally got a macro lens for my phone. So, here are some better pictures of her.

https://imgur.com/a/PuvzjBx

Update: I put some honey in her test tube and she hasn't touched it, does that mean that she's fully claustral?

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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96942Post SolenopsisKeeper
Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:43 pm

seadawg84 wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:15 pm
I finally got a macro lens for my phone. So, here are some better pictures of her.

https://imgur.com/a/PuvzjBx

Update: I put some honey in her test tube and she hasn't touched it, does that mean that she's fully claustral?
No it means OiledOlives is right and she will need host workers to feed her
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seadawg84
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Re: And Another Species ID Help, please

Post: # 96944Post seadawg84
Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:45 pm

Ok, thanks! I’m gonna release her, because I have no idea where to find some lasius alienus or lasius neoniger workers nor what to do when I did find them…

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