Pls ID these 3 queen ants

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Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96118Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:47 pm

Pls Id these 3 queen ants:

I caught a black queen ant which i strongly believe is a camponotus ant:

Size: 1.3 cm.
Color: Black but head is dark red.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8am.
Location: Malaysia, near a lake.
Tips of legs red-orange

images:
https://ibb.co/G0GkrCx
https://ibb.co/zGpHJvz
https://ibb.co/TK3cJLZ
https://ibb.co/DwfTVhX
https://ibb.co/NyTNXk4

I caught another queen ant which i also believe is a carpenter ant:

Size: Abt 1cm.
Color: Red-orange head and thorax, black abdomen.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8pm.
Location: Malaysia, in a town.
Legs orange.

images:
https://ibb.co/4Yr8qY1
https://ibb.co/hRX0TZq
https://ibb.co/hXgjJj3

Third queen ant (not Camponotus):

Size: Abt 5mm.
Color: Red head and thorax, black abdomen.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8pm.
Location: Malaysia, in a town.

image:
https://ibb.co/kSgKyjx

If these queens suceed, they will be my first colony sort of, i have a P. rastellata 'colony' but i dont really count that, because she has little brood and 1 worker, planing on letting her go.
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96120Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:49 pm

Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:47 pm
Pls Id these 3 queen ants:

I caught a black queen ant which i strongly believe is a camponotus ant:

Size: 1.3 cm.
Color: Black but head is dark red.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8am.
Location: Malaysia, near a lake.
Tips of legs red-orange

images:
https://ibb.co/G0GkrCx
https://ibb.co/zGpHJvz
https://ibb.co/TK3cJLZ
https://ibb.co/DwfTVhX
https://ibb.co/NyTNXk4

I caught another queen ant which i also believe is a carpenter ant:

Size: Abt 1cm.
Color: Red-orange head and thorax, black abdomen.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8pm.
Location: Malaysia, in a town.
Legs orange.

images:
https://ibb.co/4Yr8qY1
https://ibb.co/hRX0TZq
https://ibb.co/hXgjJj3

Third queen ant (not Camponotus):

Size: Abt 5mm.
Color: Red head and thorax, black abdomen.
Date: 28th Aug, abt 8pm.
Location: Malaysia, in a town.

image:
https://ibb.co/kSgKyjx

If these queens suceed, they will be my first colony sort of, i have a P. rastellata 'colony' but i dont really count that, because she has little brood and 1 worker, planing on letting her go.
2) Cremtogaster or some Solenopsis, I do see spines though

3)Pheidole sp.
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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96129Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:21 am

:o Yay! I got Pheidole! Wow, crematogaster too?
How about number 1?
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96132Post SYUTEO
Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:51 am

Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:21 am
:o Yay! I got Pheidole! Wow, crematogaster too?
How about number 1?
Number 1 is definitely Camponotus, not sure on the species but black body and red head strongly reminds me of Camponotus singularis which I heard is huge. I'll do research and try to find the species.

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Post: # 96170Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:04 am

SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:51 am
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:21 am
:o Yay! I got Pheidole! Wow, crematogaster too?
How about number 1?
Number 1 is definitely Camponotus, not sure on the species but black body and red head strongly reminds me of Camponotus singularis which I heard is huge. I'll do research and try to find the species.
It's not C. singularis, the head is extremely dark red. If you look at it from outside the test tube, you don't even see the red head.
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Post: # 96171Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:11 am

btw, are crematogaster queens fully claustral? I think they are because they have quite big gasters. What does 'cremato' in 'crematogaster' mean? I was thinking if 'cremato' is acrobat or lift in latin or something and 'gaster' part is of course the gaster of the ant.
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96178Post SYUTEO
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:06 am

Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:11 am
btw, are crematogaster queens fully claustral? I think they are because they have quite big gasters. What does 'cremato' in 'crematogaster' mean? I was thinking if 'cremato' is acrobat or lift in latin or something and 'gaster' part is of course the gaster of the ant.
They are fully-claustral
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:04 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:51 am
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:21 am
:o Yay! I got Pheidole! Wow, crematogaster too?
How about number 1?
Number 1 is definitely Camponotus, not sure on the species but black body and red head strongly reminds me of Camponotus singularis which I heard is huge. I'll do research and try to find the species.
It's not C. singularis, the head is extremely dark red. If you look at it from outside the test tube, you don't even see the red head.
I know, I just thought they reminded me of them. They could possibly be C. angusticollis but not very certain on this id.

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Post: # 96181Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:08 am

SYUTEO wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:06 am
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:11 am
btw, are crematogaster queens fully claustral? I think they are because they have quite big gasters. What does 'cremato' in 'crematogaster' mean? I was thinking if 'cremato' is acrobat or lift in latin or something and 'gaster' part is of course the gaster of the ant.
They are fully-claustral
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:04 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:51 am

Number 1 is definitely Camponotus, not sure on the species but black body and red head strongly reminds me of Camponotus singularis which I heard is huge. I'll do research and try to find the species.
It's not C. singularis, the head is extremely dark red. If you look at it from outside the test tube, you don't even see the red head.
I know, I just thought they reminded me of them. They could possibly be C. angusticollis but not very certain on this id.
I don't think it's C. angusticollis. Looks like the thorax is dark red, from images online.
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96231Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:08 pm

sad new about the pheidole ant, she is unfertilized. Her eggs are scattered :(
I caught an unknown ant yesterday, she was 100% fertilized, she landed on somebody and when i caught her she got just 1 wing. Then she removed her remaining wing. Sad news, she died. She began acting slower and slower and then she couldn't walk. I caught her round 5pm or so, next morning she died. She didnt even curl up or cross her legs. Which i see most ants do when they die
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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Re: Pls ID these 3 queen ants

Post: # 96258Post Polyrhachiskeeper
Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:17 am

Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:08 am
SYUTEO wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:06 am
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:11 am
btw, are crematogaster queens fully claustral? I think they are because they have quite big gasters. What does 'cremato' in 'crematogaster' mean? I was thinking if 'cremato' is acrobat or lift in latin or something and 'gaster' part is of course the gaster of the ant.
They are fully-claustral
Polyrhachiskeeper wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:04 am


It's not C. singularis, the head is extremely dark red. If you look at it from outside the test tube, you don't even see the red head.
I know, I just thought they reminded me of them. They could possibly be C. angusticollis but not very certain on this id.
I don't think it's C. angusticollis. Looks like the thorax is dark red, from images online.
Looks like abdomen is dark red too, from careful inspection. I gave her some honey and she now has a giant gaster with stripes. Maybe this is undiscovered species!? I found her in a very very very very very very remote area where there are just small little towns and jungle.
Favorite ant:
Polyrhachis/Echinopla

Founding:
-Dark Camponotus nicobarensis
-Polyrhachis illaudata
-Polyrhachis beccarii
-Polyrhachis rastellata 2x

Beginners must not keep Polyrhachis!

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