Request for Queen with colony ID

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Cycles
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Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96091Post Cycles
Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:41 pm

I was helping my parents get rid of some junk from their back yard, and found this colony inside a old propane regulator and hose that was heading for the rented dumpster.

Queen is around 5-6mm, with workers being around one third of her length.

Queen is also a glossy black in and out of light, with a wider thorax, and head shape, compared to my Solenopsis Invicta queen.


I covered too much of the 3/8 tubing when covering their setup, and the queen ended up squatting in the tube.

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Cycles
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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96092Post Cycles
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:57 pm

Forgot to add that I'm located on the central west coast of Florida.

SYUTEO
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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96096Post SYUTEO
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 pm

Do they look like Pheidole megacephala?

Cycles
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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96104Post Cycles
Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:56 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:40 pm
Do they look like Pheidole megacephala?
I believe so,

The images I can look up for Pheidole megacephala queens look just like the one I found, and the majors have massive heads compared to their bodies.

Thank you for the help.

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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96125Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:58 pm

Cycles wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:57 pm
Forgot to add that I'm located on the central west coast of Florida.
Could also be P. navigans
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Cycles
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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96227Post Cycles
Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:53 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:58 pm
Cycles wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:57 pm
Forgot to add that I'm located on the central west coast of Florida.
Could also be P. navigans
I was looking for a difference, main thing I have seen in looked up pictures is either red or black queens.


On a different note, I found an Odontomachus queen with two larva a few weeks ago. I have been looking around a couple times a week for a chance at another, but found a different queen in some damp leaf litter today.

She is tiny though, around 2-4mm, black gaster, and a dark red/orange thorax & head in the light.

I have a macro lens coming for better pictures in the future, so here are my phones bad pictures.

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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96228Post SYUTEO
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:15 pm

The ant in the picture is probably Lasius.

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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96241Post Cycles
Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:32 pm

I took some better pictures of the queen,

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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96318Post SolenopsisKeeper
Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:14 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:15 pm
The ant in the picture is probably Lasius.
Probably L. umbratus, as neoniger are rare and scattered in Florida. L. umbratus is a parasitic species, so she needs host workers. Look into research on this species are parasitic ants.
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Re: Request for Queen with colony ID

Post: # 96355Post Cycles
Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:37 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:14 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:15 pm
The ant in the picture is probably Lasius.
Probably L. umbratus, as neoniger are rare and scattered in Florida. L. umbratus is a parasitic species, so she needs host workers. Look into research on this species are parasitic ants.
She is accepting sugar water, going to see if I can find some Lasius workers and pupae.

I might have to venture further than my back yard though. I have found all my queens and colonies so far in my back yard cleaning up junk, and looking under random stuff. There are a ton of Big Head ant colonies, at least two or three odontomachus colonies, massive colonies of what I think are Black crazy ants, Pseudomyrmex gracilis colonies. The Solenopsis Invicta colonies tend to stick mostly to my front yard, but I haven't identified any Lasius species besides this parasitic queen.

I managed to capture 3 multi-queen colonies of Camponotus Planatus, that were nesting in random stuff bound for a rented dumpster.

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