Identification for two queen ants.

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Maliciousmealworms
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Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95791Post Maliciousmealworms
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:35 pm

The first ant was caught in Providence RI, at a baseball diamond.
She is 8mm long, and is a light orangish-brown.
Her head is darker than her body.
More active in her test tube when exposed to light.
Caught July 28th, 2022, (evening).

https://imgur.com/a/IpLtfrw

The second queen was caught in Southern New Hampshire, On Mt. Monadnock (Lower part of the Mountain).
She is just a little over 1cm, and she exhibits a dark brown to black coat.
Much calmer than her counterpart; Remained calm during examination.
Caught August 6th, 2022, (late morning).

https://imgur.com/a/3daywdV

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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95797Post antperson24
Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:03 am

Maliciousmealworms wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:35 pm
The first ant was caught in Providence RI, at a baseball diamond.
She is 8mm long, and is a light orangish-brown.
Her head is darker than her body.
More active in her test tube when exposed to light.
Caught July 28th, 2022, (evening).

https://imgur.com/a/IpLtfrw

The second queen was caught in Southern New Hampshire, On Mt. Monadnock (Lower part of the Mountain).
She is just a little over 1cm, and she exhibits a dark brown to black coat.
Much calmer than her counterpart; Remained calm during examination.
Caught August 6th, 2022, (late morning).

https://imgur.com/a/3daywdV
Hi, I am not sure about the first one, but I’m pretty sure the second one is Formica. Sorry I can’t help you with the first one, but somebody else will probably know!
Hope this helps! ;)
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95799Post Maliciousmealworms
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:04 pm

Thank you! I know I am definitely not a photographer, so I'll try and retake the pictures for the first ant. These are actually my first queen ants so I am sorry for any poor pictures or descriptions, but again thank you.

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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95800Post antperson24
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:05 pm

Maliciousmealworms wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:04 pm
Thank you! I know I am definitely not a photographer, so I'll try and retake the pictures for the first ant. These are actually my first queen ants so I am sorry for any poor pictures or descriptions, but again thank you.
Don’t be to concerned about the photos, sure it’s nice to have really good photos, but these are good enough that they should work. The description is really good, having a good description helps us a lot to id them. Congrats on your first queens, Formica is a good beginner species! :D
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95806Post SolenopsisKeeper
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:42 pm

Maliciousmealworms wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:35 pm
The first ant was caught in Providence RI, at a baseball diamond.
She is 8mm long, and is a light orangish-brown.
Her head is darker than her body.
More active in her test tube when exposed to light.
Caught July 28th, 2022, (evening).

https://imgur.com/a/IpLtfrw

The second queen was caught in Southern New Hampshire, On Mt. Monadnock (Lower part of the Mountain).
She is just a little over 1cm, and she exhibits a dark brown to black coat.
Much calmer than her counterpart; Remained calm during examination.
Caught August 6th, 2022, (late morning).

https://imgur.com/a/3daywdV
1) Looks like Solenopsis. Are you sure those measurements are correct? I recall their ant queens being quite a bit smaller.

2) Like antperson24 said, it is Formica, most likely Formica subsericea or a closely related species. Same care as Formica fusca
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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95809Post Maliciousmealworms
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:23 am

Oh yes sorry about that, I retook the measurements for the first ant an she seems to be about 6mm not 8mm. It's a bit hard to tell because she likes to run around a lot. Though I'm fairly sure it's at least 5mm to 6mm, on the higher spectrum. As you did say she is very small, and I think you might be right about her being a Solenopsis sp. And also thank you for confirming it was Formica for the second queen.
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Re: Identification for two queen ants.

Post: # 95810Post antperson24
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:24 am

Maliciousmealworms wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:23 am
Oh yes sorry about that, I retook the measurements for the first ant an she seems to be about 6mm not 8mm. It's a bit hard to tell because she likes to run around a lot. Though I'm fairly sure it's at least 5mm to 6mm, on the higher spectrum. As you did say she is very small, and I think you might be right about her being a Solenopsis sp.
I would say Solenopsis sp. too, with the new measurement.
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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