Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

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JaydenScheepers
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Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94474Post JaydenScheepers
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:45 pm

She is black in color and has two spines where her head ends, and her thorax begins. Test tube is a bit dirty so I couldn't catch the detail, but I saw her wing scars and I immediately noticed she is a dealate when I saw her. Reason for that is because I see the workers of this species everywhere, they usually forage alone, and when I saw her I noticed she had a slightly larger thorax for her size, so I captured her and observed her wing scars which confirmed my suspicion.
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94485Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:29 pm

JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:45 pm
She is black in color and has two spines where her head ends, and her thorax begins. Test tube is a bit dirty so I couldn't catch the detail, but I saw her wing scars and I immediately noticed she is a dealate when I saw her. Reason for that is because I see the workers of this species everywhere, they usually forage alone, and when I saw her I noticed she had a slightly larger thorax for her size, so I captured her and observed her wing scars which confirmed my suspicion.
Can you link the photo on imagur or google photos? Thanks! ;)
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94491Post JaydenScheepers
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:52 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:29 pm
JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:45 pm
She is black in color and has two spines where her head ends, and her thorax begins. Test tube is a bit dirty so I couldn't catch the detail, but I saw her wing scars and I immediately noticed she is a dealate when I saw her. Reason for that is because I see the workers of this species everywhere, they usually forage alone, and when I saw her I noticed she had a slightly larger thorax for her size, so I captured her and observed her wing scars which confirmed my suspicion.
Can you link the photo on imagur or google photos? Thanks! ;)
https://imgur.com/gallery/cTCPbDb

Here, sorry I already had the link ready, but I'm an idiot and I forgot to paste it :D
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

JaydenScheepers
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94492Post JaydenScheepers
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:54 pm

I know this is off topic, but while we're here, do you by any chance know how long it usually takes for Pheidole parva eggs to go from eggs to workers? I'm really anxious about this colony.
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94494Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:01 pm

JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:54 pm
I know this is off topic, but while we're here, do you by any chance know how long it usually takes for Pheidole parva eggs to go from eggs to workers? I'm really anxious about this colony.
Eggs can take(In species where I am) anywhere from 42 to 72 days to develop, does this sound right? Maybe they are making reproductives?
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JaydenScheepers
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94495Post JaydenScheepers
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:06 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:01 pm
JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:54 pm
I know this is off topic, but while we're here, do you by any chance know how long it usually takes for Pheidole parva eggs to go from eggs to workers? I'm really anxious about this colony.
Eggs can take(In species where I am) anywhere from 42 to 72 days to develop, does this sound right? Maybe they are making reproductives?
I thought smaller ants would develop a bit faster than bigger ants, why would they be making reproductives at this stage, unless their unfertilized and making drones because of it.
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

JaydenScheepers
Posts: 358
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94497Post JaydenScheepers
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:37 pm

https://imgur.com/gallery/cTCPbDb

Here, sorry I already had the link ready, but I'm an idiot and I forgot to paste it :D
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Do you maybe have a list of species or genuses that might resemble her, put me in the right direction to start looking?
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

JaydenScheepers
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94503Post JaydenScheepers
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:32 am

I think I found her genus! Odontoponera.
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94518Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:44 am

JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:06 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:01 pm
JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:54 pm
I know this is off topic, but while we're here, do you by any chance know how long it usually takes for Pheidole parva eggs to go from eggs to workers? I'm really anxious about this colony.
Eggs can take(In species where I am) anywhere from 42 to 72 days to develop, does this sound right? Maybe they are making reproductives?
I thought smaller ants would develop a bit faster than bigger ants, why would they be making reproductives at this stage, unless their unfertilized and making drones because of it.
Under certain conditions, yes. In regular conditions, workers take around 3-5 weeks and majors taking one or two months(without heat).

Some pheidole do get majors very early on, so it is a possibility that those eggs may be small larvae(hard to see with ***** eye, maybe even impossible to see first instar larvae in Pheidole) that have received the pheromone to develop into a major.
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JaydenScheepers
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Re: Dealate ID request, I believe she is semi-caulostrial

Post: # 94528Post JaydenScheepers
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:13 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:44 am
JaydenScheepers wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:06 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:01 pm


Eggs can take(In species where I am) anywhere from 42 to 72 days to develop, does this sound right? Maybe they are making reproductives?
I thought smaller ants would develop a bit faster than bigger ants, why would they be making reproductives at this stage, unless their unfertilized and making drones because of it.
Under certain conditions, yes. In regular conditions, workers take around 3-5 weeks and majors taking one or two months(without heat).

Some pheidole do get majors very early on, so it is a possibility that those eggs may be small larvae(hard to see with ***** eye, maybe even impossible to see first instar larvae in Pheidole) that have received the pheromone to develop into a major.
It would be so cool seeing a major early on, I think Pheidole majors are particularly great looking. When I look at the batch of brood all I see are white dots, some might be larvae and some might be eggs, but I can't tell. And I don't want to take to much time observing, because I don't want to stress either one of the queens, because they might start eating the brood.
Keeping:

• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1

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