I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Guys! Today is truly an exiting day. 2 days ago I saw the first larvae, (the queen separated the larvae and the batch of eggs) and today I saw what I believe is two more larvae. Soon I will have a Odontomachus colony, I will monitor them very closely.( Sorry I don't have pictures, the test-tube is too foggy to get a meaningful photo out of.
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Don’t count pupae before they hatch with Odontomachus. Some Odontomachus queens will kill their pupae for no reason, eat brood for no reason, and even die randomly.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:10 pmGuys! Today is truly an exiting day. 2 days ago I saw the first larvae, (the queen separated the larvae and the batch of eggs) and today I saw what I believe is two more larvae. Soon I will have a Odontomachus colony, I will monitor them very closely.( Sorry I don't have pictures, the test-tube is too foggy to get a meaningful photo out of.
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Where is the survival benefit in that?SolenopsisKeeper wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:17 pmDon’t count pupae before they hatch with Odontomachus. Some Odontomachus queens will kill their pupae for no reason, eat brood for no reason, and even die randomly.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:10 pmGuys! Today is truly an exiting day. 2 days ago I saw the first larvae, (the queen separated the larvae and the batch of eggs) and today I saw what I believe is two more larvae. Soon I will have a Odontomachus colony, I will monitor them very closely.( Sorry I don't have pictures, the test-tube is too foggy to get a meaningful photo out of.
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Sometimes queens are just stubborn. Some Odontomachus queens even raise males even if they are mated.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:11 amWhere is the survival benefit in that?SolenopsisKeeper wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:17 pmDon’t count pupae before they hatch with Odontomachus. Some Odontomachus queens will kill their pupae for no reason, eat brood for no reason, and even die randomly.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:10 pmGuys! Today is truly an exiting day. 2 days ago I saw the first larvae, (the queen separated the larvae and the batch of eggs) and today I saw what I believe is two more larvae. Soon I will have a Odontomachus colony, I will monitor them very closely.( Sorry I don't have pictures, the test-tube is too foggy to get a meaningful photo out of.
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Still, it makes no sense as to why their behavior would be like that. It is basically self sabotaging, there has to be an explanation. I'll try to get a bigger sample size and monitor them closelySYUTEO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:22 amSometimes queens are just stubborn. Some Odontomachus queens even raise males even if they are mated.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:11 amWhere is the survival benefit in that?SolenopsisKeeper wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:17 pm
Don’t count pupae before they hatch with Odontomachus. Some Odontomachus queens will kill their pupae for no reason, eat brood for no reason, and even die randomly.
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
When I first raised my Odontomachus, I raised two queen. One queen, whom I checked on every two weeks and put food in an outworld every day,(and nectar) decided to always eat her mature larvae. She died after keeping her for 6 months.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:40 amStill, it makes no sense as to why their behavior would be like that. It is basically self sabotaging, there has to be an explanation. I'll try to get a bigger sample size and monitor them closely
Self-sabatoage? I think not, as she can reabsorb that protein for a future batch of eggs, and they may do it based on what food they find? Not sure, but next march I am going to raise 50 local Odontomachus queens of two species.
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
I call it self "sabotaging", because the whole gimmick of queen ants is to start an army to look after her later on in her life. If she eats her army before they can become soldiers, it's basically self sabotaging.SolenopsisKeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:33 amWhen I first raised my Odontomachus, I raised two queen. One queen, whom I checked on every two weeks and put food in an outworld every day,(and nectar) decided to always eat her mature larvae. She died after keeping her for 6 months.JaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:40 amStill, it makes no sense as to why their behavior would be like that. It is basically self sabotaging, there has to be an explanation. I'll try to get a bigger sample size and monitor them closely
Self-sabatoage? I think not, as she can reabsorb that protein for a future batch of eggs, and they may do it based on what food they find? Not sure, but next march I am going to raise 50 local Odontomachus queens of two species.
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
Her out world had a mealworm surviving in her out world that I had put in a while ago. Today when I checked upon her and her brood I saw a very dead mealworm in her test tube, probably to feed all her hungry larvae.
Also should I watch closely for mold?
Also should I watch closely for mold?
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
If you feed her fruit flies. That was my mistake, as they mold VERY quicklyJaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:44 pmHer out world had a mealworm surviving in her out world that I had put in a while ago. Today when I checked upon her and her brood I saw a very dead mealworm in her test tube, probably to feed all her hungry larvae.
Also should I watch closely for mold?
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Re: I'm trying to ID my trap-jaw queen. Thailand
So don't feed her fruit flies? Got it.SolenopsisKeeper wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:58 pmIf you feed her fruit flies. That was my mistake, as they mold VERY quicklyJaydenScheepers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:44 pmHer out world had a mealworm surviving in her out world that I had put in a while ago. Today when I checked upon her and her brood I saw a very dead mealworm in her test tube, probably to feed all her hungry larvae.
Also should I watch closely for mold?
Keeping:
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
• Cataulacus granulatus x2
• Camponotus parius
• Odontomachus sp x4
• Pheidole prava x1
• Pseudoneoponera sp x1
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