May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Help with identifying the species your ants

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Pnokked713
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May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92279Post Pnokked713
Thu May 12, 2022 6:24 pm

If this is a queen it'll be my first of such a small size, as such it is harder for me to be sure being new to this and all.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0j76Dms

An ID and confirmation that it is a queen would be greatly appreciated! It seems to have the plateau back but is too small to find wing scars.

7.5 mm length

SolenopsisKeeper
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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92284Post SolenopsisKeeper
Thu May 12, 2022 8:03 pm

Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 6:24 pm
If this is a queen it'll be my first of such a small size, as such it is harder for me to be sure being new to this and all.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0j76Dms

An ID and confirmation that it is a queen would be greatly appreciated! It seems to have the plateau back but is too small to find wing scars.

7.5 mm length
I don’t know many northern ants other than Camponotus, but it is a queen. Almost looks like a semi-claustral species, but I am not sure. Can definitely see spines!
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Pnokked713
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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92291Post Pnokked713
Thu May 12, 2022 8:49 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:03 pm
Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 6:24 pm
If this is a queen it'll be my first of such a small size, as such it is harder for me to be sure being new to this and all.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0j76Dms

An ID and confirmation that it is a queen would be greatly appreciated! It seems to have the plateau back but is too small to find wing scars.

7.5 mm length
I don’t know many northern ants other than Camponotus, but it is a queen. Almost looks like a semi-claustral species, but I am not sure. Can definitely see spines!
Reddit says Myrmica, there's a couple species of them near me as well so I think that's what I'll go with for now. Not sure I'll be keeping it though, no fire ants for me lol

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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92293Post SolenopsisKeeper
Thu May 12, 2022 9:54 pm

Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:49 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:03 pm
Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 6:24 pm
If this is a queen it'll be my first of such a small size, as such it is harder for me to be sure being new to this and all.

https://imgur.com/gallery/0j76Dms

An ID and confirmation that it is a queen would be greatly appreciated! It seems to have the plateau back but is too small to find wing scars.

7.5 mm length
I don’t know many northern ants other than Camponotus, but it is a queen. Almost looks like a semi-claustral species, but I am not sure. Can definitely see spines!
Reddit says Myrmica, there's a couple species of them near me as well so I think that's what I'll go with for now. Not sure I'll be keeping it though, no fire ants for me lol
Not “true” fire ants, but I have heard they are just as a hassle
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Pnokked713
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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92297Post Pnokked713
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:54 pm
Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:49 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:03 pm


I don’t know many northern ants other than Camponotus, but it is a queen. Almost looks like a semi-claustral species, but I am not sure. Can definitely see spines!
Reddit says Myrmica, there's a couple species of them near me as well so I think that's what I'll go with for now. Not sure I'll be keeping it though, no fire ants for me lol
Not “true” fire ants, but I have heard they are just as a hassle
Would you mind explaining that? I'm still learning and everything I look up calls them European fire ants, painful sting included.

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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92301Post SolenopsisKeeper
Fri May 13, 2022 7:02 am

Pnokked713 wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:54 pm
Pnokked713 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:49 pm


Reddit says Myrmica, there's a couple species of them near me as well so I think that's what I'll go with for now. Not sure I'll be keeping it though, no fire ants for me lol
Not “true” fire ants, but I have heard they are just as a hassle
Would you mind explaining that? I'm still learning and everything I look up calls them European fire ants, painful sting included.
“True” fire ants are Solenopsis invicta, the Red Imported Fire Ant. They fly almost year-round, excluding December, and fly in waves. I believe invicta also is larger, and in my opinion, S. Invicta stings hurt almost the worst in Florida.(Excluding the trap jaw ant). Some people also consider “true” fire ants as Solenopsis gemineta, the tropical fire ant.
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Pnokked713
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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92306Post Pnokked713
Fri May 13, 2022 7:37 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 7:02 am
Pnokked713 wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:54 pm


Not “true” fire ants, but I have heard they are just as a hassle
Would you mind explaining that? I'm still learning and everything I look up calls them European fire ants, painful sting included.
“True” fire ants are Solenopsis invicta, the Red Imported Fire Ant. They fly almost year-round, excluding December, and fly in waves. I believe invicta also is larger, and in my opinion, S. Invicta stings hurt almost the worst in Florida.(Excluding the trap jaw ant). Some people also consider “true” fire ants as Solenopsis gemineta, the tropical fire ant.
Ahhh I gotcha. Thank you for the lesson!

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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92313Post SYUTEO
Fri May 13, 2022 6:20 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 7:02 am
Pnokked713 wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:54 pm


Not “true” fire ants, but I have heard they are just as a hassle
Would you mind explaining that? I'm still learning and everything I look up calls them European fire ants, painful sting included.
“True” fire ants are Solenopsis invicta, the Red Imported Fire Ant. They fly almost year-round, excluding December, and fly in waves. I believe invicta also is larger, and in my opinion, S. Invicta stings hurt almost the worst in Florida.(Excluding the trap jaw ant). Some people also consider “true” fire ants as Solenopsis gemineta, the tropical fire ant.
Actually 'true' fire ants include all Solenopsis species that isn't thief ants, which means 'true' fire ants also include a lot more species. Here's a link to all of the species: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Fire_Ants

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Re: May 12th 2022 United States, Maryland, Brunswick

Post: # 92321Post SolenopsisKeeper
Fri May 13, 2022 10:31 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 6:20 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 7:02 am
Pnokked713 wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 5:13 am


Would you mind explaining that? I'm still learning and everything I look up calls them European fire ants, painful sting included.
“True” fire ants are Solenopsis invicta, the Red Imported Fire Ant. They fly almost year-round, excluding December, and fly in waves. I believe invicta also is larger, and in my opinion, S. Invicta stings hurt almost the worst in Florida.(Excluding the trap jaw ant). Some people also consider “true” fire ants as Solenopsis gemineta, the tropical fire ant.
Actually 'true' fire ants include all Solenopsis species that isn't thief ants, which means 'true' fire ants also include a lot more species. Here's a link to all of the species: https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Fire_Ants
Sorry for not including that. This brings me back to trying to ID my first fire ant queen, reading there is 22(23?) types of true fire ants.

Thank you for including S. Xyloni, could never forget them along with others
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