Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

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SeanSz
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Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

Post: # 92257Post SeanSz
Wed May 11, 2022 2:54 pm

Has anyone ever successfully taken an ant colony from the wild and established it in captivity? I have a small pheidole ant colony in my backyard, and have been wanting to dig it up for about a week. I believe it is Pheidole obscurithorax, which is an introduced species in my area, so it would not negatively impact the native ecosystem. I have some AC ant towers coming in, and would like to hopefully establish the colony in there, and let them grow out. Is digging up the colony a legitimate idea, or does it not work that well? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

Post: # 92265Post SolenopsisKeeper
Thu May 12, 2022 7:34 am

SeanSz wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:54 pm
Has anyone ever successfully taken an ant colony from the wild and established it in captivity? I have a small pheidole ant colony in my backyard, and have been wanting to dig it up for about a week. I believe it is Pheidole obscurithorax, which is an introduced species in my area, so it would not negatively impact the native ecosystem. I have some AC ant towers coming in, and would like to hopefully establish the colony in there, and let them grow out. Is digging up the colony a legitimate idea, or does it not work that well? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Trust me, pheidole adapt to almost anything. Wait until a sunny day with high temperatures. I dug mine up by taking the first 6 inches full of soil and brood, and spread it along the ground(I had been doing this for months). I stood there for about 3 minutes, said the queen would be deeper, and was beginning to get up. Then, I spotted her, a beautiful little P. Obscurithorax queen. They don’t go very deep, but only have one queen so it’s difficult to find her in all the brood
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Re: Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

Post: # 92267Post AM1C39
Thu May 12, 2022 7:37 am

I have caught two wild colonies but both where not really underground so I did not need to do alot of digging. There was a myrmica alaskensis colony that was living under some bricks but they might of died. I Have a very succesful formica neogagates colony that I caught from some old logs. Catching wild colonies is risky as you might kill the queen by accident --both of the colonies that I caught had multiple queens and I did not harm any of them-- Also, the workers from the colonies might be old ones, so they might die withought being able to make a difference for the colony.
My current colonies:
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
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Re: Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

Post: # 92269Post SolenopsisKeeper
Thu May 12, 2022 7:39 am

AM1C39 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:37 am
I have caught two wild colonies but both where not really underground so I did not need to do alot of digging. There was a myrmica alaskensis colony that was living under some bricks but they might of died. I Have a very succesful formica neogagates colony that I caught from some old logs. Catching wild colonies is risky as you might kill the queen by accident --both of the colonies that I caught had multiple queens and I did not harm any of them-- Also, the workers from the colonies might be old ones, so they might die withought being able to make a difference for the colony.
This species always has tons of brood, unless the queen is dead/diapause
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Re: Digging up a Pheidole Colony!

Post: # 92276Post SeanSz
Thu May 12, 2022 2:31 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:34 am
SeanSz wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:54 pm
Has anyone ever successfully taken an ant colony from the wild and established it in captivity? I have a small pheidole ant colony in my backyard, and have been wanting to dig it up for about a week. I believe it is Pheidole obscurithorax, which is an introduced species in my area, so it would not negatively impact the native ecosystem. I have some AC ant towers coming in, and would like to hopefully establish the colony in there, and let them grow out. Is digging up the colony a legitimate idea, or does it not work that well? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Trust me, pheidole adapt to almost anything. Wait until a sunny day with high temperatures. I dug mine up by taking the first 6 inches full of soil and brood, and spread it along the ground(I had been doing this for months). I stood there for about 3 minutes, said the queen would be deeper, and was beginning to get up. Then, I spotted her, a beautiful little P. Obscurithorax queen. They don’t go very deep, but only have one queen so it’s difficult to find her in all the brood
Great info! Thank you very much!

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