Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

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LaniLyne0106
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Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86127Post LaniLyne0106
Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:56 am

Hi, I’m from Arizona but I have this queen ant from Florida (whole story here —> https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=23109 ) I had previously thought that this species was Solenopsis but these ants bite and don’t sting I was told it could be pheidole but I’m not sure, I will post pics of the worker ants I have ( they are dead sadly) as soon as I get a macro lens for my camera to ensure the pics are clear. Thanks in advance :D
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mzasxN4PsuSb8QDw8
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86128Post AM1C39
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:05 am

What is her lenght in mm?
My current colonies:
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
In search of new camponotus colony
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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86129Post Antloverhuman
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:14 am

Can you provide their length?
I highly think that it is pheidoli.
Here is a list of all pheidoli that are found in Florida (somehow there is ungodly amount of information of ants in Florida). I think it could be P. Danteta, P. Floridana or P. Metallescens but you might have a better idea. I am not an expert on id-ing but i have seen alot of pheidoli queens and yours look like one

Pheidole adrianoi Naves. Widespread.

Pheidole bicarinata vinelandica

Pheidole carrolli Naves.

Pheidole crassicornis Emery.

Pheidole dentata Mayr

Pheidole dentigula M. R. Smith

Pheidole diversipilosa Wheeler.

Pheidole flavens Roger.

Pheidole floridana Emery.

Pheidole lamia Wheeler.

Pheidole littoralis Cole.

Pheidole megacephala (Fabricius)

Pheidole metallescens Emery

Pheidole moerens Wheeler

Pheidole morrisi Forel

Pheidole obscurithorax Naves

Pheidole tysoni Forel
Ants I have-
camponotus compressus colony- the shadow warriors.
Pls just let me have a tetramorium colony

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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86130Post LaniLyne0106
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:19 am

Oops sorry about that I don’t have much to mesure her with would it help if I set her on top of a dime?
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86131Post LaniLyne0106
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:26 am

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aqzuJRRToeucwaJ67
That’s for size comparison she’s on a dime, best pic I could get of though as she moves around too much
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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LaniLyne0106
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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86132Post LaniLyne0106
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:55 am

Okay I have a proper size, I measured her to be approx. 5mm
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86133Post SolenopsisKeeper
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:56 am

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:55 am
Okay I have a proper size, I measured her to be approx. 5mm
I have a similar queen I caught, if it is pehoile. A ant discord server told me it was phedoilie Floridanus.
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

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Re: Queen ant ID (Florida ant)

Post: # 86138Post LaniLyne0106
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:11 pm

Thanks for your guys advice, I will be digging into the specific species of Pheidole that you all have metioned to see which one she resembles the most :)
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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