First Queen! Plz help identify
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First Queen! Plz help identify
Hi hi! I've been lurking until now but just caught my first queen today!
I have not been successful in figuring out what species I have. Even just a general idea would help - I think it is either Camponotus or Messor...? Would care for these differ? I saw in my "research" earlier that Camponotus queens are semiclaustral? Is this true? I really gotta rush for a better setup if so, as I have her in a.... sort of test tube... (It's actually a mini puzzle tube I washed out clean... )
I live in Shanghai and unfortunately havent been able to find ANY information on local ant species, which really hasn't helped narrow it down.
Sorry for the not so great photos, I will try to get some better photos (also profile, hopefully) tomorrow, but lighting wasnt the best (and I was super nervous! lol). Please do let me know any specific shots that would help with ID.
She is about 13~15mm long, completely black and beautifully smooth and shiny!
Thank you so much in advance!!
I have not been successful in figuring out what species I have. Even just a general idea would help - I think it is either Camponotus or Messor...? Would care for these differ? I saw in my "research" earlier that Camponotus queens are semiclaustral? Is this true? I really gotta rush for a better setup if so, as I have her in a.... sort of test tube... (It's actually a mini puzzle tube I washed out clean... )
I live in Shanghai and unfortunately havent been able to find ANY information on local ant species, which really hasn't helped narrow it down.
Sorry for the not so great photos, I will try to get some better photos (also profile, hopefully) tomorrow, but lighting wasnt the best (and I was super nervous! lol). Please do let me know any specific shots that would help with ID.
She is about 13~15mm long, completely black and beautifully smooth and shiny!
Thank you so much in advance!!
Janet
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Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
I am unable to open your photos (not that I could help you with an ant ID in Shanghai), but for others with more knowledge on the subject, use this tutorial to upload photos that are viewable by others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Mu4Rw3s8w
The other thing you can do is upload the images to imgur.com Just click the "New Post" button at the top of the screen (you don't even need to login to the site). Upload your photos and then copy and past the "BBCode" for the uploaded image here on the AntsCanada Forum. That has worked for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Mu4Rw3s8w
The other thing you can do is upload the images to imgur.com Just click the "New Post" button at the top of the screen (you don't even need to login to the site). Upload your photos and then copy and past the "BBCode" for the uploaded image here on the AntsCanada Forum. That has worked for me.
Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
Thank you so much! Definitely total noob all around!drawpositive wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:04 pmI am unable to open your photos (not that I could help you with an ant ID in Shanghai), but for others with more knowledge on the subject, use this tutorial to upload photos that are viewable by others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Mu4Rw3s8w
The other thing you can do is upload the images to imgur.com Just click the "New Post" button at the top of the screen (you don't even need to login to the site). Upload your photos and then copy and past the "BBCode" for the uploaded image here on the AntsCanada Forum. That has worked for me.
As for Shanghai specific knowledge: I don't expect to get this at all. I have been looking for resources on this over the past 2 weeks with no success. None of the amazing species resources online have any information at all on China in general, let alone Shanghai specifically. I have resigned myself to probably only every getting as far as genus and that would be ok I think....
I will also have to start thinking about whether or not they would hybernate but it's early in the year, so one mystery at a time! lol
Ok, so second try for the photos:
Janet
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Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
She looks like a carpenter ant species.
Ant Colonies I Own :
(Prenolepis imparis)--Subzero
(Tetramorium immigrans)--The Concrete Angles
(Formica neogagates)--The Unyielding Legion
(Prenolepis imparis)--Subzero
(Tetramorium immigrans)--The Concrete Angles
(Formica neogagates)--The Unyielding Legion
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Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
Yeah I would say carpenter ant too but, there is a chance it could be Formica.
If you can get me a good pic of the mandibles then I can help!
If you can get me a good pic of the mandibles then I can help!
I know things
Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
Your queen is probably from the genus camponotus. Camponotus are usually fullyclaustral. You can decide witch species looks the most like your queen. Hear is a list of native ants from Shanghai, China:
- Acropyga sauteri
Aphaenogaster geei
Brachyponera chinensis
Brachyponera luteipes
Camponotus albosparsus
Camponotus friedae
Camponotus helvus
Camponotus japonicus
Camponotus keihitoi
Camponotus lighti
Camponotus quadrinotatus
Camponotus vitiosus
Crematogaster nawai
Crematogaster osakensis
Crematogaster subnuda nigrosubnuda
Crematogaster zoceensis
Ectomomyrmex astutus
Ectomomyrmex javanus
Formica clara sinae
Formica japonica
Iridomyrmex anceps
Liometopum sinense
Messor aciculatus
Messor aciculatus risianus
Monomorium chinense
Monomorium intrudens
Monomorium intrudens pieli
Nylanderia flavipes
Nylanderia formosae
Nylanderia picta
Nylanderia pieli
Ochetellus glaber
Odontomachus monticola
Paraparatrechina sauteri
Paratopula ceylonica
Pheidole nodus
Pheidole pieli
Pheidole zoceana
Polyrhachis dives
Polyrhachis lamellidens
Polyrhachis moesta
Pristomyrmex punctatus
Solenopsis soochowensis
Solenopsis soochowensis pieli
Strumigenys lewisi
Tapinoma sinense
Tetramorium annectens
Tetramorium tsushimae
My current colonies:
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
In search of new camponotus colony
[Have a look at antmaps.org]
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
In search of new camponotus colony
[Have a look at antmaps.org]
Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
Wow ok! Yes I was leaning towards Camponotus as well! Thanks so much!AM1C39 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:07 pmYour queen is probably from the genus camponotus. Camponotus are usually fullyclaustral. You can decide witch species looks the most like your queen. Hear is a list of native ants from Shanghai, China:
- Acropyga sauteri
Aphaenogaster geei
Brachyponera chinensis
Brachyponera luteipes
Camponotus albosparsus
Camponotus friedae
Camponotus helvus
Camponotus japonicus
Camponotus keihitoi
Camponotus lighti
Camponotus quadrinotatus
Camponotus vitiosus
Crematogaster nawai
Crematogaster osakensis
Crematogaster subnuda nigrosubnuda
Crematogaster zoceensis
Ectomomyrmex astutus
Ectomomyrmex javanus
Formica clara sinae
Formica japonica
Iridomyrmex anceps
Liometopum sinense
Messor aciculatus
Messor aciculatus risianus
Monomorium chinense
Monomorium intrudens
Monomorium intrudens pieli
Nylanderia flavipes
Nylanderia formosae
Nylanderia picta
Nylanderia pieli
Ochetellus glaber
Odontomachus monticola
Paraparatrechina sauteri
Paratopula ceylonica
Pheidole nodus
Pheidole pieli
Pheidole zoceana
Polyrhachis dives
Polyrhachis lamellidens
Polyrhachis moesta
Pristomyrmex punctatus
Solenopsis soochowensis
Solenopsis soochowensis pieli
Strumigenys lewisi
Tapinoma sinense
Tetramorium annectens
Tetramorium tsushimae
May I ask where you got this list? I couldn't find any such information in my (clearly amateurish) research! This is amazing!!
Janet
- total ant noob!
- total ant noob!
Re: First Queen! Plz help identify
I always use antmaps.org when I need to know what ants live where. Good luck!
My current colonies:
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
In search of new camponotus colony
[Have a look at antmaps.org]
-Miniature Military(formica neogagates)
-Black Hearts(crematogaster cerasi)
In search of new camponotus colony
[Have a look at antmaps.org]
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