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Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm
by prancingAnt
Hi guys and girls,

I caught a queen late last year, I think around November. After having watched a fair bit of AntsCanada on Youtube, and seeing the size of her, I kept her. She showed up on the tiled floor in the back garden, suburban area, in between the sea and mountains.

I initially put her in a plastic container with some dry dirt, a wet cotton wad and a a tube made of packing paper, closed on end, since i really didn't have any test tubes at hand, and put her in a cool room. Looks like she mostly just hibernated all this time. She did chew out a lot of the packing paper and threw it outside the tube, seems like she was trying to dig deeper? The end of the paper tube was wet too.

Tonight I moved her to a test tube setup. she was pretty inactive, I did not spot any eggs.

I tried to take a few pictures, I managed to get her straight into the test tube from the paper tube and didn't want to mess her around too much. The pictures through the test tube are not great, but I hope to get a general identification maybe?

Her total length is 12 mm (test tube OD is 16mm)

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Re: Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:37 am
by Good2Know15
prancingAnt wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm
Hi guys and girls,

I caught a queen late last year, I think around November. After having watched a fair bit of AntsCanada on Youtube, and seeing the size of her, I kept her. She showed up on the tiled floor in the back garden, suburban area, in between the sea and mountains.

I initially put her in a plastic container with some dry dirt, a wet cotton wad and a a tube made of packing paper, closed on end, since i really didn't have any test tubes at hand, and put her in a cool room. Looks like she mostly just hibernated all this time. She did chew out a lot of the packing paper and threw it outside the tube, seems like she was trying to dig deeper? The end of the paper tube was wet too.

Tonight I moved her to a test tube setup. she was pretty inactive, I did not spot any eggs.

I tried to take a few pictures, I managed to get her straight into the test tube from the paper tube and didn't want to mess her around too much. The pictures through the test tube are not great, but I hope to get a general identification maybe?

Her total length is 12 mm (test tube OD is 16mm)

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Wow, such an amazing find! This is some kind of Messor sp queen and as far as I can tell, it might be Messor bouvieri :?:
I found that it is difficult to raise a Messor colony from a single queen, especially in the beginning stages. The best way would be to leave her in a warm dark environment for atleast 3 weeks and then check up on her. Messor queens get eaily stressed from light and tend to eat their eggs sometimes (atleast, in my experience). Good luck!

Re: Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:29 am
by prancingAnt
Hey thanks for your reply!

I've kept her in a relatively cool spot so far, up until a few weeks ago 15º celcius, now that weather is warming up here probably about 20º
She laid a small cluster of eggs a little while after posting the first message. I have been checking up on her every week or so, keeping exposure to light and movement under a minute or so. The eggs appear to have been enlarging, not much else going on yet...

What would be a good temperature to keep her at?

Re: Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:44 am
by prancingAnt
I had a little look around now that I have an approximate id and after reading this message https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?p=67320#p67320 decided to check up and try to offer her a sliver of almond. She went straight for it after sliding it past the cotton stopper!

Re: Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:29 pm
by prancingAnt
Update, in case anyone is interested:

The queen is alive and well, I have since about a week or so moved her to a warmer spot 24-27 degrees.
The brood has grown a lot since doing that. I added some slightly crushed birdseed to the tube, she seem to have eaten a sunflower pip

Here is a video of her grooming her brood. Adding a spare night vision ipcam to the box has been a lot of fun (if you do, turn it off after use, since it really heats things up..)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpX5KJenauc

still have not confirmed id, so if you know, let me know :)