Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

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prancingAnt
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Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Post: # 67455Post prancingAnt
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm

Hi guys and girls,

I caught a queen late last year, I think around November. After having watched a fair bit of AntsCanada on Youtube, and seeing the size of her, I kept her. She showed up on the tiled floor in the back garden, suburban area, in between the sea and mountains.

I initially put her in a plastic container with some dry dirt, a wet cotton wad and a a tube made of packing paper, closed on end, since i really didn't have any test tubes at hand, and put her in a cool room. Looks like she mostly just hibernated all this time. She did chew out a lot of the packing paper and threw it outside the tube, seems like she was trying to dig deeper? The end of the paper tube was wet too.

Tonight I moved her to a test tube setup. she was pretty inactive, I did not spot any eggs.

I tried to take a few pictures, I managed to get her straight into the test tube from the paper tube and didn't want to mess her around too much. The pictures through the test tube are not great, but I hope to get a general identification maybe?

Her total length is 12 mm (test tube OD is 16mm)

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Good2Know15
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Re: Queen caught in Barcelona, Spain 12mm November-ish

Post: # 67650Post Good2Know15
Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:37 am

prancingAnt wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:13 pm
Hi guys and girls,

I caught a queen late last year, I think around November. After having watched a fair bit of AntsCanada on Youtube, and seeing the size of her, I kept her. She showed up on the tiled floor in the back garden, suburban area, in between the sea and mountains.

I initially put her in a plastic container with some dry dirt, a wet cotton wad and a a tube made of packing paper, closed on end, since i really didn't have any test tubes at hand, and put her in a cool room. Looks like she mostly just hibernated all this time. She did chew out a lot of the packing paper and threw it outside the tube, seems like she was trying to dig deeper? The end of the paper tube was wet too.

Tonight I moved her to a test tube setup. she was pretty inactive, I did not spot any eggs.

I tried to take a few pictures, I managed to get her straight into the test tube from the paper tube and didn't want to mess her around too much. The pictures through the test tube are not great, but I hope to get a general identification maybe?

Her total length is 12 mm (test tube OD is 16mm)

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Wow, such an amazing find! This is some kind of Messor sp queen and as far as I can tell, it might be Messor bouvieri :?:
I found that it is difficult to raise a Messor colony from a single queen, especially in the beginning stages. The best way would be to leave her in a warm dark environment for atleast 3 weeks and then check up on her. Messor queens get eaily stressed from light and tend to eat their eggs sometimes (atleast, in my experience). Good luck!
Keeper of:
14x Lasius niger
1x Lasius flavus
2x Lasius lasioides
1x Myrmica rubra
1x Messor barbarus
1x Messor wasmanni
3x Solenopsis fugax
1x Crematogaster scutellaris
1x Camponotus aethiops
1x Camponotus ligniperdus :lol:

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