Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

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ShadowNova
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Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66682Post ShadowNova
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:59 am

Hello,
Just found a few of these ant queens during nuptial flight today, the weather conditions is rainy and it was found at Tamborine Mountain, Queensland, Australia. I was wondering if anyone could help me identify the species of this queen. I have seen photo's occasionally pop up when looking at Meat Ant Queens (Iridomeryx Purperus), however Meat Ant Queens are all black. I'm not sure if they are a claustral or semi-claustral species either. So if anyone could help me out that would be great.

Cheers, ShadowNova

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Keeping the following Colonies:
  • Myrmecia Chrysogaster
  • Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
  • Rhytidoponera Metallica
  • Rhytidoponera Aspersa
  • Camponotus Aeneopilosus
  • Pheidole Sp.
  • Iridomeryx Purperus
  • Other Sp. Etc

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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66683Post AusAnts
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:10 am

ShadowNova wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:59 am
Hello,
Just found a few of these ant queens during nuptial flight today, the weather conditions is rainy and it was found at Tamborine Mountain, Queensland, Australia. I was wondering if anyone could help me identify the species of this queen. I have seen photo's occasionally pop up when looking at Meat Ant Queens (Iridomeryx Purperus), however Meat Ant Queens are all black. I'm not sure if they are a claustral or semi-claustral species either. So if anyone could help me out that would be great.

Cheers, ShadowNova

I'm not 100% sure put i would say it's a species of pheidole. from my experience they are fully claustral.

btw did that queen with the drone mate?
2 x iridomyrmex sp Queen:15+ workers
2 x iridomyrmex pallidus: 40+ workers
1 x pheidole megacephala:2 queen 300 workers.
1 x opisthopsis Queen: 14 workers

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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66692Post ShadowNova
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:23 am

Hey AusAnts,
One of the queens has mated the other 4 have a male each, but I'm not 100% sure they have mated. I'm going to see tommorow if I can collect a few more Males to make sure they are. Also thanks for the help with identifying this queen. I'm not too knowledgeable in the Pheidole Species but can the queens be the about the size of a Queen Meat Ant or large Camptonotus Sp. ? I ask as the Queens I have are quite large in comparison to the Pheidole Queen I have.

Cheers, Jordan
Keeping the following Colonies:
  • Myrmecia Chrysogaster
  • Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
  • Rhytidoponera Metallica
  • Rhytidoponera Aspersa
  • Camponotus Aeneopilosus
  • Pheidole Sp.
  • Iridomeryx Purperus
  • Other Sp. Etc

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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66694Post ShadowNova
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:42 am

Just done some more research into the species of this queen. Could these be Funace Ant Queens? If so is this species Claustral or Semi-Claustral?
Keeping the following Colonies:
  • Myrmecia Chrysogaster
  • Iridomyrmex Bicknelli
  • Rhytidoponera Metallica
  • Rhytidoponera Aspersa
  • Camponotus Aeneopilosus
  • Pheidole Sp.
  • Iridomeryx Purperus
  • Other Sp. Etc

AusAnts
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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66695Post AusAnts
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:54 am

tbh i'm not to knowledgeable in pheidole Queens either. But with looking at pictures of Queens on the internet, they all seem to have a few more nodes attaching her gaster to her thorax. To get better identification i would need a side angle of the Queen. The Queen should not be a meat ant as the head looks to big
2 x iridomyrmex sp Queen:15+ workers
2 x iridomyrmex pallidus: 40+ workers
1 x pheidole megacephala:2 queen 300 workers.
1 x opisthopsis Queen: 14 workers

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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66702Post antnest8
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:43 am

Do you have an exact measurement?
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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66704Post antnest8
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:53 am

Also It does look like a pheidole queen but, I can't see if it has two petidole nodes, to me it looks like it has one just by the distance of the gaster from the thorax.
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https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=19099
Includes :
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    Queen Hunting
    How To Identify Ants
Goal is to become #2 poster on the forum

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Re: Unusual Ant Queen Identification Required!

Post: # 66777Post itsmenog
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:44 am

ShadowNova wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:42 am
Just done some more research into the species of this queen. Could these be Funace Ant Queens? If so is this species Claustral or Semi-Claustral?
Hit the nail on the head, this is a Melophorus sp.(furnace ant) queen, nice find! They are claustral.

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