Caught in Alabama Mid October

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PatrickS
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Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64790Post PatrickS
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:55 am

I am new to ant keeping and caught this queen October 12th in North Alabama. The length is around 8mm I would say. If the pictures aren’t sufficient I’ll try to get some better ones for you guys.

https://imgur.com/33w9fua

https://imgur.com/SpPwuSY

Thanks!

PatrickS
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64819Post PatrickS
Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:52 am

Bump, hoping someone can help with this.

nmullen100
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64826Post nmullen100
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:30 pm

I think I caught something similar 2 days ago I think it's a slonopsis species but I'm not sure which one. It looks similar tone but mines a little smaller with a faster slightly smaller than yours.

LasiusSapien
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64836Post LasiusSapien
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:55 am

watched a documentary about ants last night and they look very similar to your queen they where honey pot ants Myrmecocystus mimicus perhaps your queen is a member of that genus
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs

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UnrealSparks
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64840Post UnrealSparks
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:30 am

LasiusSapien wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:55 am
honey pot ants Myrmecocystus mimicus perhaps your queen is a member of that genus
I highly doubt it. She does look like a Solenopsis queen to me as well, as nmullen100 suggested. Here's an example of said species

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As you can see the "shape" is basically identical, except for the color, but that might be due to its sub-species.
Keeping the following colonies:
  • [2x] Camponotus Barbaricus
  • [2x] Lasius Flavus

LasiusSapien
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64841Post LasiusSapien
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:39 am

UnrealSparks wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:30 am
LasiusSapien wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:55 am
honey pot ants Myrmecocystus mimicus perhaps your queen is a member of that genus
I highly doubt it. She does look like a Solenopsis queen to me as well, as nmullen100 suggested. Here's an example of said species

Image

As you can see the "shape" is basically identical, except for the color, but that might be due to its sub-species.
indeed it does look solenopsis but in the opening post he states that the queen is 8mm in size which is about the size of a lasius niger queen and my solenopsis fugax queen was noticeable smaller than my lasius niger queen i'd say she was around 6mm in size
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs

PatrickS
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64842Post PatrickS
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm

Thanks guys! I agree that it’s probably a solenopsis queen.

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UnrealSparks
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64843Post UnrealSparks
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:35 pm

LasiusSapien wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:39 am

indeed it does look solenopsis but in the opening post he states that the queen is 8mm in size which is about the size of a lasius niger queen and my solenopsis fugax queen was noticeable smaller than my lasius niger queen i'd say she was around 6mm in size
Sub-species queens can vary quite a lot from one another.
Solenopsis Fugax is generally tiny (around 6 mm) but for example Solenopsis Invicta is already bigger (even more than 8 mm).
Keeping the following colonies:
  • [2x] Camponotus Barbaricus
  • [2x] Lasius Flavus

nmullen100
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64872Post nmullen100
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:45 am

Hey guys just to update I have a picture although it's an godawful one here and it looks very similar to his and it's probably a little smaller maybe 6 mm long. As said before I believe it's a type of solenopsis species

http://imgur.com/gallery/3WpBLrH

PatrickS
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Re: Caught in Alabama Mid October

Post: # 64878Post PatrickS
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:51 pm

Thanks again for the help. Is there a tips and tricks somewhere on the forums for raising a solenopsis colony? They can be tricky from what I understand.

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