ID Help

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SuperChampF350
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ID Help

Post: # 54365Post SuperChampF350
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:35 am

I found this one in November 16 around 4:30 PM in Land O Lakes FL (Near Tampa)there are stripes on the gaster, and she like the humid side, also, sorry that the photos are a little blurry.

https://imgur.com/gallery/7k5U9WA

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antnest8
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Post: # 54376Post antnest8
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:54 pm

looks a bit like lasius
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SuperChampF350
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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54383Post SuperChampF350
Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:49 pm

SuperChampF350 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:35 am
I found this one in November 16 around 4:30 PM in Land O Lakes FL (Near Tampa)there are stripes on the gaster, and she like the humid side, also, sorry that the photos are a little blurry.

https://imgur.com/gallery/7k5U9WA
Btw I live in subtropics for those who don’t live in Florida so I have some temperate and tropical ants also, the queen is about 5mm long

SuperChampF350
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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54384Post SuperChampF350
Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:55 pm

SuperChampF350 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:49 pm
SuperChampF350 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:35 am
I found this one in November 16 around 4:30 PM in Land O Lakes FL (Near Tampa)there are stripes on the gaster, and she like the humid side, also, sorry that the photos are a little blurry.

https://imgur.com/gallery/7k5U9WA
Btw I live in subtropics for those who don’t live in Florida so I have some temperate and tropical ants also, the queen is about 5mm long
Also I suspect one of three genuses:Lasius, Camponotus, and Paratrechina

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antnest8
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Post: # 54386Post antnest8
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:11 pm

do you have the length of the queen because the queen does not look big enough for a camponotus sp.
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1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
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SuperChampF350
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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54387Post SuperChampF350
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:56 pm

antnest8 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:11 pm
do you have the length of the queen because the queen does not look big enough for a camponotus sp.
Yah I posted it in my replies to myself, 5mm

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antnest8
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Post: # 54401Post antnest8
Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:06 pm

oh sorry i can't believe i missed that :oops:
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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54426Post DontSquishTheAnt
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:52 pm

Okay, this is definitely Formicidae, and I think that you are probably correct in saying that this is part of the tribe Lasiini; as it is too small for either Formica or Camponotus. However, I can't say whether this is Lasius, Nylanderia, Paratrechina, or something else. The stripes are a good sign, saying that your queen has probably mated, but that doesn't really help with the ID. To get even a genus level identification, you would have to count mandibular teeth, seta density, palpomeres, et cetera. For now, though, we can say that it is probably Lasius or Nylanderia. It is definitely in the size range for both of those too.
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SuperChampF350
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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54427Post SuperChampF350
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:49 am

DontSquishTheAnt wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:52 pm
Okay, this is definitely Formicidae, and I think that you are probably correct in saying that this is part of the tribe Lasiini; as it is too small for either Formica or Camponotus. However, I can't say whether this is Lasius, Nylanderia, Paratrechina, or something else. The stripes are a good sign, saying that your queen has probably mated, but that doesn't really help with the ID. To get even a genus level identification, you would have to count mandibular teeth, seta density, palpomeres, et cetera. For now, though, we can say that it is probably Lasius or Nylanderia. It is definitely in the size range for both of those too.
Yah I’m working on figuring out macro shots

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Re: ID Help

Post: # 54468Post antnest8
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:58 am

the stripes could just be a species feature.
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2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
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