Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

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Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50503Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:27 pm

so like the title says smallest queen ive seen its so small I could barely get these pics in the daylight with an extra led light trying to brighten her.

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I don't think its a Lasius. sp but my eyes aren't good enough.. hopefully tonight ill set up a lighting area for closer pics.
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50504Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:00 pm

Okay so seeing her again I can confirm she is 100% not lasius. The antenna curve is completely wrong.

Current theories in order of likelihood

brachymyrmex
paratechnica
prenolepis
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50505Post TheRealAntMan
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:20 pm

Can you possibly get any pics of the petiole?
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50506Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:56 pm

TheRealAntMan wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:20 pm
Can you possibly get any pics of the petiole?
because of her position on the cotton these were the best ones I could get from the set
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Post: # 50508Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:07 pm

Cropped and enhanced better shot of the antenna
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50510Post Batspiderfish
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:12 pm

Brachymyrmex depilis
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50512Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:19 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:12 pm
Brachymyrmex depilis
That makes me so happy that I was right about the genus again the eyes aren't so great. However im curious what makes it depilis? I'm amazed the quality was good enough for an accurate ID

Oops depilis - without hair
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50513Post Batspiderfish
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:28 pm

MorbidBugg wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:19 pm
That makes me so happy that I was right about the genus again the eyes aren't so great. However im curious what makes it depilis? I'm amazed the quality was good enough for an accurate ID

Oops depilis - without hair
B. depilis is the only species from the genus which lives that far north.
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 50514Post MorbidBugg
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:37 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:28 pm
MorbidBugg wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:19 pm
That makes me so happy that I was right about the genus again the eyes aren't so great. However im curious what makes it depilis? I'm amazed the quality was good enough for an accurate ID

Oops depilis - without hair
B. depilis is the only species from the genus which lives that far north.
And there's my new fact for the day learned. It also appears upon first search there's not much reading on brachymyrmex besides subterranean and likes 'underground bugs' I'm not sure if that's a technical term but I'm assuming fruit flies should be accepted. Also if you could point me in a general direction for info that would be appreciated... not necessary but appreciated lol


On a another note. I find it odd that I found a queen weren't their nuptials between may and July?
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Re: Smallest queen ive ever seen 4 mm Ontario 6:30 pm

Post: # 51827Post nbro444
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:35 am

I also found a queen of this species in tx the exact same time this year!
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