2 tiny queens can yall help me ID them

[Sargentnoid]

The first 3 pics are new queens I caught yesterday in central Arkansas I think I've identified them as (Temnothorax longispinosus) but there's a good chance I'm wrong as I'm still very new to this. The last pic is a colony I had thought was Temnothorax curvispinosus but when I was taking pictures I noticed the workers have striped gastors instead of the "eye spots" the Temnothorax curvispinosus has I didn't get a size as I thought she was identified already but she's less then 5mm and the picture was taken of her inside of 1/4 airline tube from a fish tank.
Thanks again for all the help




This photo is just for size


This is the small colony

[AntsDakota]

I believe your id on the second colony is correct, but I can't be sure on the first queen. I don't even know if it's from the genus Temnothorax.

[Sargentnoid]

Ya the pics of the first one aren't very good she's so small and wouldn't stay still.
The small colony could be Temnothorax curvispinosus but I am thinking she's not because I can't see any spines on her back an the workers are slightly larger and a little different color.
But like I said I'm still learning so I'm trying to look at the small details and I'm wrong alot

[Batspiderfish]

Can you please get a shot of the first ant's mandibles?

[Batspiderfish]

Nevermind. Most likele Myrmecina americana, even though I cannot see the second set of propodeal spines.

[Sargentnoid]

I'll see if I can get better pictures when I get home I think I found a dead one at the same time and I don't know why i didn't think to take pictures of it

[Batspiderfish]

I'll see if I can get better pictures when I get home I think I found a dead one at the same time and I don't know why i didn't think to take pictures of it

I wanted to see if there were any teeth on the mandibles, but I could actually see that there were in one of the photos.