ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

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MorbidBugg
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41299Post MorbidBugg
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:42 pm

Those are waaaay better pictures. Good job. The one with the pepper shaped gaster is a male... the other one may be a small female...

But let me get back to gushing on your picture. Is that fuzz on top of that ant? These are quite excellent photos good job.
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Cichlid
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41303Post Cichlid
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:06 pm

Which picture has the fuzz in question?

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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41305Post MorbidBugg
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:52 pm

Cichlid wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:06 pm
Which picture has the fuzz in question?
The second picture from the new set of links in the third you can kinda see it as well but not as much
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Cichlid
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41311Post Cichlid
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:41 pm

The fuzz in that pic is condensation or moisture within the test tube

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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41320Post Batspiderfish
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:15 pm

"sp." just stands for species. There is also "spp." for species pluralis (more than one species) and "cf." for comparable to (when you can't prove an identity but it looks similar, e.g. Formica cf. ulkei).

Which brings me to the identity of the reddish "male". She is actually a social parasite queen, Formica ulkei from the exsecta group of Formica. She will need about 6-8 Formica worker pupae in order to start a colony (and a snack, in the meanwhile).

I can't really tell much from the photographs of the black queens because they are pretty dark, but all are claustral Formica queens.
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41325Post MorbidBugg
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:24 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:15 pm

Which brings me to the identity of the reddish "male". She is actually a social parasite queen, Formica ulkei from the exsecta group of Formica. She will need about 6-8 Formica worker pupae in order to start a colony (and a snack, in the meanwhile).
That is cool, it just goes to show that certain tell traits can be deceiving..
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41355Post Pabloof7
Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:44 am

Sp. stands for species
Keeping:
x1 Tapinoma erraticum
x1 Formica fusca
x2 Lasius niger

Founding:
x7 Camponotus
x1 Unknown

Wishlist:
Tetramorium sp

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Cichlid
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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41398Post Cichlid
Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Batspiderfish wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:15 pm
"sp." just stands for species. There is also "spp." for species pluralis (more than one species) and "cf." for comparable to (when you can't prove an identity but it looks similar, e.g. Formica cf. ulkei).

Which brings me to the identity of the reddish "male". She is actually a social parasite queen, Formica ulkei from the exsecta group of Formica. She will need about 6-8 Formica worker pupae in order to start a colony (and a snack, in the meanwhile).

I can't really tell much from the photographs of the black queens because they are pretty dark, but all are claustral Formica queens.

By this do you mean I can feed her and wait for my other new formica to get some pupae? Or will she need the pupae sooner than the new ladies can produce? Also just thinking out loud could I group up 2 or 3 of these other Formica queens and take some pupae from the group as to not stunt 1queen to badly ? Provided they are the type to get along ?

I'll try to get clearer pics of the gasters of the black ones tonight

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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41405Post Cichlid
Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:56 pm

Here are some updated gaster shots. Depending on the angle the lighter areas seem almost see through.

https://imgur.com/a/P1SAXX5

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Re: ID: Southwestern Ontario Canada

Post: # 41545Post Cichlid
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:49 pm

Hey Batspiderfish did these new pics give any more clarity ?

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