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Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48696Post AntsDakota
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:58 pm

I find a larger and smaller Tetramorium species around my area. I can tell because the queen elates are different sizes. Does anyone have any ideas on what other species this could be? (They look almost completely the same, except for the size.)
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48717Post antnest8
Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:31 pm

it could be pheidolie
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1 tapinoma sessile colony
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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48725Post AntsDakota
Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:34 pm

antnest8 wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:31 pm
it could be pheidolie
Yeah, maybe. Could it be pilifera? (I haven't seen a single major, though.)
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48726Post AntsDakota
Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:53 pm

Actually, Pheidole pilifera seems a little small for even the smaller species.........
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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48744Post idahoantgirl
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:44 pm

I have found in my established T. Immigrans colonies that size of the worker depends on how much food was available when they were developing.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48799Post antnest8
Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:19 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:44 pm
I have found in my established T. Immigrans colonies that size of the worker depends on how much food was available when they were developing.
so they are polymophic?
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48808Post idahoantgirl
Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:57 pm

No. Its just that if some were a bit malnurished when they were developing they will be smaller.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48867Post AntsDakota
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:51 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:44 pm
I have found in my established T. Immigrans colonies that size of the worker depends on how much food was available when they were developing.
I know that, but there are 2 sizes of queen elates from different nests. Also, one species is dull black and the other is shiny black.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48880Post idahoantgirl
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:23 pm

Then they are different species. Pics would be better than vague descriptions.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

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Re: Two Tetramorium species?

Post: # 48893Post AntsDakota
Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:19 pm

idahoantgirl wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:23 pm
Then they are different species. Pics would be better than vague descriptions.
Well, I would have to go some ways to get them, as they are not in my neighborhood.
"God made every kind of wild beasts and every kind of livestock and every kind of creeping things;" (including ants) "and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:25

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