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Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:38 pm
by Champ114
My lasius niger of two workers and like 20 eggs with some brood wont eat anything i give them for example i gave them a half dead grasshopper with a drop of honey, they went for the honey but not the grasshopper. Soo i’ve just been feeding them honey which i think is not enough for them.

Any ideas on what i could possible feed them?

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:35 am
by NYAnts11
Ants will usually eat only what they need, and save the rest for later. L. Niger are pretty picky, there's a website I found that says their likes and dislikes. To include, alot of people has the assumption that they eat a lot, and for a small colony that you have, I would guess that you possibly might be over feeding them?

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 am
by Batspiderfish
No Lasius niger in Tennessee.

Small ants love small insects like Drosophila "fruit flies".

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm
by AntDudeUSA
Batspiderfish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 am
No Lasius niger in Tennessee.

Small ants love small insects like Drosophila "fruit flies".
Hello I don't mean to start a argument or anything and I am positive that you know ants a lot more than I do however I have been looking into that and on AntMaps it says that L. Niger have been found in many parts of the eastern US due to plants being brought over from Europe and them being introduced. I am aware of Lasius Alienus which are very similar but they (AntMaps) make a clear distinction between the two, they even have pictures of the L. Niger which are identical to the European specimens

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:57 pm
by Batspiderfish
AntDudeUSA wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm
Batspiderfish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 am
No Lasius niger in Tennessee.
Small ants love small insects like Drosophila "fruit flies".
Hello I don't mean to start a argument or anything and I am positive that you know ants a lot more than I do however I have been looking into that and on AntMaps it says that L. Niger have been found in many parts of the eastern US due to plants being brought over from Europe and them being introduced. I am aware of Lasius Alienus which are very similar but they (AntMaps) make a clear distinction between the two, they even have pictures of the L. Niger which are identical to the European specimens
Lasius niger in the U.S. is understudied because populations are so few and isolated that they are rarely found. It is also easy to mistaken them. Antmaps and Antweb are great database resources, but they occasionally contradict the research done by local ecologists, particularly in the case of ants which are hard to identify. They should be taken with a grain of salt.

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:29 am
by antnest8
Batspiderfish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:57 pm
AntDudeUSA wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm
Batspiderfish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 am
No Lasius niger in Tennessee.
Small ants love small insects like Drosophila "fruit flies".
Hello I don't mean to start a argument or anything and I am positive that you know ants a lot more than I do however I have been looking into that and on AntMaps it says that L. Niger have been found in many parts of the eastern US due to plants being brought over from Europe and them being introduced. I am aware of Lasius Alienus which are very similar but they (AntMaps) make a clear distinction between the two, they even have pictures of the L. Niger which are identical to the European specimens
Lasius niger in the U.S. is understudied because populations are so few and isolated that they are rarely found. It is also easy to mistaken them. Antmaps and Antweb are great database resources, but they occasionally contradict the research done by local ecologists, particularly in the case of ants which are hard to identify. They should be taken with a grain of salt.
You know BatSpiderFish you might as well keep the phrase "There is no lasius niger in north america and yes i know antmaps says it is but they are sometimes wrong" always copyed and pasted when you get on the the forums :D :lol: :lol: :D

Re: Picky Lasius Niger Colony

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:04 pm
by Batspiderfish
antnest8 wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:29 am
You know BatSpiderFish you might as well keep the phrase "There is no lasius niger in north america and yes i know antmaps says it is but they are sometimes wrong" always copyed and pasted when you get on the the forums :D :lol: :lol: :D
Yeah. I understand where people are coming from. AntsCanada has no myrmecologists associated with it to straighten these things out and online resources become the most authoritative hubs of information. Even I find myself relying on Antmaps and Antweb, which might occasionally lead me to make a mistake, but I happen to know a thing or two about the ants on my continent.