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FINAnts
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Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37468Post FINAnts
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:03 am

Just caught 2 formica rufa queens. :D Will post a pic if someone helps a little. ;)
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
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FINAnts
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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37471Post FINAnts
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:10 am

Also have to ID a queen.
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

FINAnts
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Re: Queen update from Finland!

Post: # 37481Post FINAnts
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:27 am

Is Formica Rufa a social parasite and is it fully claustral? First caught so want to make sure. Also, pretty sure the unidentified queen is Lasius Niger. Brown color and 9 mm in length.
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

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Batspiderfish
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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37483Post Batspiderfish
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:34 am

No way to be sure without an ID. Claustral means that they stay in their own cell to start a colony, so a social parasite like Formica rufa can't be "fully" claustral. They will need 6-8 Formica pupae to start a colony, but make sure the identity is correct.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

FINAnts
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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37484Post FINAnts
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:00 pm

I'm pretty sure it is F. Rufa. So I just put like Fusca-, or other formica, pupae with her?
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

FINAnts
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Location: Kaustinen, Finland

Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37490Post FINAnts
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:54 pm

Got some F. Fusca pupae. Just put them in?
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

FINAnts
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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37561Post FINAnts
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:34 am

Caught another L. Niger! :)
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37571Post NYAnts11
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:31 am

I'm having trouble find L. niger. here in Upstate NY, I've heard that a good place to look is on Golf Courses.... Looks like I need to find some time from work to hit the links. :lol:

FINAnts
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Re: Queen update from Finland!

Post: # 37579Post FINAnts
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:20 am

Yea, I live in countryside so we just turned some rocks. But I think there aren't much rocks on golf courses. They say you should go after a rainstorm. It rained here few days ago and we are finding the fertile queens inside chambers, no eggs yet.
-2 L. Niger queens
-1 F. Rufa queen
-3 C. Herculeanus queens
-1 F. Fusca queen
-1 Leptothorax acervorum colony
Suomi!

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Re: Queen update from Finlad!

Post: # 37583Post Batspiderfish
Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:49 am

NYAnts11 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:31 am
I'm having trouble find L. niger. here in Upstate NY, I've heard that a good place to look is on Golf Courses.... Looks like I need to find some time from work to hit the links. :lol:
Lasius niger (or a close, undescribed species) does exist in North America, but 99.99% of the time you are actually looking at Lasius alienus or another species from that group.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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