Help with Camponotus

Discussions about the care and keeping of ants

Moderator: ooper01

SolenopsisKeeper
Posts: 2402
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 am
Location: United States, Florida

Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87277Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:24 pm

Hello, as you can read in the title, I need help with Camponotus plantas. I caught them in a twig, and they had two workers. One worker just died, and now only one worker with a cocoon. Can I give them brood from a similar spieces like C. Floridanus?
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

SYUTEO
Posts: 1395
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:58 am
Location: Malaysia

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87284Post SYUTEO
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:11 pm

You can try a few at first and see what happens, anything can go wrong and you'll never know what will. It's like a 50/50 chance.

SolenopsisKeeper
Posts: 2402
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 am
Location: United States, Florida

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87285Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:11 pm
You can try a few at first and see what happens, anything can go wrong and you'll never know what will. It's like a 50/50 chance.
I am considering just waiting and seeing what happens first
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

User avatar
AntsAntsAnts
Posts: 365
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am
Location: Australia

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87298Post AntsAntsAnts
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:04 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:11 pm
You can try a few at first and see what happens, anything can go wrong and you'll never know what will. It's like a 50/50 chance.
I am considering just waiting and seeing what happens first
1. Do they have a queen?

2. Did you research?
You should one part first, best to be a pupae. Then just wait and see if it is accepted. It probably will, in my experience, as it will eventually take on the colony scent...
keeping:
all my queens died :(
got a sugar ant colony started :)

SolenopsisKeeper
Posts: 2402
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 am
Location: United States, Florida

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87311Post SolenopsisKeeper
Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:20 am

AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:04 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:11 pm
You can try a few at first and see what happens, anything can go wrong and you'll never know what will. It's like a 50/50 chance.
I am considering just waiting and seeing what happens first
1. Do they have a queen?

2. Did you research?
You should one part first, best to be a pupae. Then just wait and see if it is accepted. It probably will, in my experience, as it will eventually take on the colony scent...
Yes they have a queen and one worker. They have been reported to be polygynos Camponotus species according to ant wiki. I did research, asked around, and what some said it was risky… they are apparently closely related with C. Floridanus(Flordia carpenter ants) and tortoganus(Flordia carpenter ants). Becuase they are polygynos, will they accept workers from other nests?
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

SYUTEO
Posts: 1395
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:58 am
Location: Malaysia

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87318Post SYUTEO
Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:19 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:20 am
AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:04 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 pm


I am considering just waiting and seeing what happens first
1. Do they have a queen?

2. Did you research?
You should one part first, best to be a pupae. Then just wait and see if it is accepted. It probably will, in my experience, as it will eventually take on the colony scent...
Yes they have a queen and one worker. They have been reported to be polygynos Camponotus species according to ant wiki. I did research, asked around, and what some said it was risky… they are apparently closely related with C. Floridanus(Flordia carpenter ants) and tortoganus(Flordia carpenter ants). Becuase they are polygynos, will they accept workers from other nests?
It is possible that they will accept them and some people use this method to create multi-species colonies and sometimes they went as far as introducing pupae and even queens from different genera and subfamilies but according to this thread introducing queens is extremely risky and is currently experimental (even though it's from last year): https://www.formiculture.com/topic/15143-the-experimental-process-of-creating-multispecies-ant-colonies/#:~:text=We%20define%20a%20multispecies%20colony,can%20be%20functional%20long%2Dterm.. So only try introducing pupae, DO NOT introduce queens just yet.

SolenopsisKeeper
Posts: 2402
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 am
Location: United States, Florida

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87329Post SolenopsisKeeper
Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:32 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:19 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:20 am
AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:04 am


1. Do they have a queen?

2. Did you research?
You should one part first, best to be a pupae. Then just wait and see if it is accepted. It probably will, in my experience, as it will eventually take on the colony scent...
Yes they have a queen and one worker. They have been reported to be polygynos Camponotus species according to ant wiki. I did research, asked around, and what some said it was risky… they are apparently closely related with C. Floridanus(Flordia carpenter ants) and tortoganus(Flordia carpenter ants). Becuase they are polygynos, will they accept workers from other nests?
It is possible that they will accept them and some people use this method to create multi-species colonies and sometimes they went as far as introducing pupae and even queens from different genera and subfamilies but according to this thread introducing queens is extremely risky and is currently experimental (even though it's from last year): https://www.formiculture.com/topic/15143-the-experimental-process-of-creating-multispecies-ant-colonies/#:~:text=We%20define%20a%20multispecies%20colony,can%20be%20functional%20long%2Dterm.. So only try introducing pupae, DO NOT introduce queens just yet.
Yea not doing queens. I would not want to risk beautiful Camponotus queens. Also, could I introduce workers from the same spieces Becuase they are polygynos.
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

User avatar
AntsAntsAnts
Posts: 365
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am
Location: Australia

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87344Post AntsAntsAnts
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:24 am

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:32 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:19 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:20 am


Yes they have a queen and one worker. They have been reported to be polygynos Camponotus species according to ant wiki. I did research, asked around, and what some said it was risky… they are apparently closely related with C. Floridanus(Flordia carpenter ants) and tortoganus(Flordia carpenter ants). Becuase they are polygynos, will they accept workers from other nests?
It is possible that they will accept them and some people use this method to create multi-species colonies and sometimes they went as far as introducing pupae and even queens from different genera and subfamilies but according to this thread introducing queens is extremely risky and is currently experimental (even though it's from last year): https://www.formiculture.com/topic/15143-the-experimental-process-of-creating-multispecies-ant-colonies/#:~:text=We%20define%20a%20multispecies%20colony,can%20be%20functional%20long%2Dterm.. So only try introducing pupae, DO NOT introduce queens just yet.
Yea not doing queens. I would not want to risk beautiful Camponotus queens. Also, could I introduce workers from the same spieces Becuase they are polygynos.
most likely. But beware of mites and parasites with the outside workers
keeping:
all my queens died :(
got a sugar ant colony started :)

SolenopsisKeeper
Posts: 2402
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:41 am
Location: United States, Florida

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87361Post SolenopsisKeeper
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:22 am

AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:24 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:32 pm
SYUTEO wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:19 am

It is possible that they will accept them and some people use this method to create multi-species colonies and sometimes they went as far as introducing pupae and even queens from different genera and subfamilies but according to this thread introducing queens is extremely risky and is currently experimental (even though it's from last year): https://www.formiculture.com/topic/15143-the-experimental-process-of-creating-multispecies-ant-colonies/#:~:text=We%20define%20a%20multispecies%20colony,can%20be%20functional%20long%2Dterm.. So only try introducing pupae, DO NOT introduce queens just yet.
Yea not doing queens. I would not want to risk beautiful Camponotus queens. Also, could I introduce workers from the same spieces Becuase they are polygynos.
most likely. But beware of mites and parasites with the outside workers
I will quarantine.
When you accidentally reply to yourself…

User avatar
AntsAntsAnts
Posts: 365
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:10 am
Location: Australia

Re: Help with Camponotus

Post: # 87382Post AntsAntsAnts
Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:30 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:22 am
AntsAntsAnts wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:24 am
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:32 pm


Yea not doing queens. I would not want to risk beautiful Camponotus queens. Also, could I introduce workers from the same spieces Becuase they are polygynos.
most likely. But beware of mites and parasites with the outside workers
I will quarantine.
once I quarantined and I am glad i did. The next day I found the worker dead with like 10 dead mites next to it.
keeping:
all my queens died :(
got a sugar ant colony started :)

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests