All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

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All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

Post: # 56198Post Good2Know15
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:08 pm

Dear antkeepers,

I'm new to the AntsCanada Forums and I don't know if this is the right place to post this topic, but I hope I can get some answers or opinions. I just started with the antkeeping hobby last summer, because I'm really interested in ants. I'm going to tell you all of my mistakes I made during the proces of learning about antkeeping...

So as a beginner I was really excited about starting an ant colony. I was preparing for the big nuptial flights that occur each year at my local area around the months of august and september. I waited some time and after a couple of weeks it finally started to rain. The next day was warm and sunny and the ground was pretty moisty. These were the perfect conditions for the nuptial flights to happen and I was right about it. I went outside and started looking for mating queen ants. I didn't have much with me besides a small container after some toothpicks, so I used it to capture my first Lasius Niger queen.

This was my first mistake as it was difficult to provide my queen moisture. The small plastic container had little holes on top, small enough so no ant could escape. I put some wet cotton balls inside and hoped it will work, but I had to add water once a week. I kept my queen in a dark place to not stress her out too much. She laid a bunch of eggs the next day and after a few weeks the first nanitic ants hatched. It was a succes, I thought.

Everything was going great until I had to feed the colony. I gave them some honeywater on a piece of paper and the ants seemed to love it. I fed my colony once a week, but after a month I started to notice some mold growing. I didn't do much at first, but after another week had passed, the mold really started to spread all over the container. This was the moment when I really went into panic mode. Without thinking I grabbed another plastic container, but it was much longer so I could fill it half with water and made some sort of diagonal standing up test tube setup this time. My ants weren't too much bothered with the move, because they stayed calm and just slowly moved into the new setup without even having me to get a flashlight and shine it on to the old setup.

I kept feeding my colony honeywater, sugarwater and some variants of protein rich foods like pre-killed fruit flies and small spiders or crickets. As time passed by, my colony started growing in numbers from a bunch of eggs to 10 worker ants already. As my small test tube setup was getting tight for the ants to walk around, I made the biggest mistake yet and decided to buy a small formicarium. It was a very bad idea! I didn't know that my colony needs to have atleast 40 worker ants before they could move to a bigger nest space. They moved out of the test tube setup pretty quickly and within 2 days every member of the colony including the queen and the brood had moved into the formicarium. Everything was looking good and I had no problem feeding the colony, so what was the problem you may be asking?

My Lasius Niger colony decided to use the extra space as a place to dump all their garbage. I connected my formicarium to a small foraging area with ground in it. As you might expect, I added too much water so it all became too moist. The ants decided to dig tunnels in the ground. Within another month the disaster struck. The condensation started forming all over the glass of the foraging area and the formicarium. I had a really hard time removing it and cleaning the foraging arena. There were already some casualties within the colony. The number of worker ants dropped drastically from 10 to 4.

Then I made another BIG mistake. As winter was slowly approaching I tried to move my colony out of their dirty and moist formicarium into a proper glass test tube setup with water filled to 1/3 of the tube and plugged both ends with cotton balls. One out of the four worker ants didn't make it. The queen slowed a bit down and seemed stressed out, but maybe she was just preparing for the hibernation. I gave them some honeywater and left them for a week in a dark, quiet place to not cause any further damage that I had previously done. The ants seemed okay, so I slowly started to decrease the temperature in the room I kept my colony in. This took me two weeks. Then the hibernation time started. I put them in a cold place with temperature of around 5 to 8 degrees Celcius. I left them there for 3 months while I was checking on them once a month. The worker ants were crawled up and the queen really slowed down.

I recently ended the hibernation as the temperature outisde is getting warmer and wild ants are starting to come out of their nests. I can say that the hibernation was half a succes, because the three worker ants didn't make it and I think I over froze them or maybe it was just their time. I'm sure they were dead as I slowly raised the temperature back to around 15 to 20 degrees Celcius in a period of three weeks. The workers didn't move at all, not even a single leg or antenna. I got them out of the tube and the only thing that's now left is the queen with a few larvae :cry: . The queen looks to be fine now and the larvae seem to be alive to.


These were all the mistakes I made as a beginner (and I still am).
To end this all of I just have one question, because I'm kinda worried as to if anything is okay with my Lasius Niger queen and her larvae in the current test tube setup as in AntsCanada's video.

Will my Lasius Niger queen fully recover after the loss of all her workers?


Thank you very much for posting this topic! I hope that you have learned something new from my experiences and that someone can help me answering my question. PS: I hope it's not too much reading :roll:
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Re: All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

Post: # 56200Post JoeHostile1
Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:53 pm

Your queen should be fine as long as you provide her with food. I’ve had queens that lost all their workers and made full recoveries. Luckily you have larvae so you don’t have to feed her yourself for too long.
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Re: All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

Post: # 56215Post Good2Know15
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:18 am

Thank you for your answer!

Does it mean I still need to provide my queen a droplet of honeywater once a week? Do I also need to give her some protein like fruit flies so she can feed them to her larvae? The larvae are really tiny and I only saw one moving a bit. I hope that my queen will recover after the whole move and the loss of her workers :|
Also known as Ants_Netherlands18 on Instagram

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I have kept 48 species of 18 different genera of ants over the course of 3.5 years of antkeeping :)

For species ID, feel free to message me privately!

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Re: All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

Post: # 56602Post ManWithNoTan
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:27 pm

Thanks for sharing your story. Hope all goes well.

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Re: All of my antkeeping mistakes that led to a disaster!

Post: # 56658Post akuminari
Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:49 pm

Good2Know15 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:18 am
Thank you for your answer!

Does it mean I still need to provide my queen a droplet of honeywater once a week? Do I also need to give her some protein like fruit flies so she can feed them to her larvae? The larvae are really tiny and I only saw one moving a bit. I hope that my queen will recover after the whole move and the loss of her workers :|
Yes, you should provide them with honey water and protein. Not only for the larvae, but the queen has more than likely lost her food reserves from the beginning founding stages of the colony.

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