Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

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Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39218Post Spacepup
Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:57 pm

So, this is my first, and only right now, queen ant. I found her a couple of days ago after having walked around a little while during lunch at work. Having gotten back to my desk, I was answering a phone call when I saw this black dot moving around on my shoulder. So while trying to explain a University purchasing system to someone I was also trying to corral this little girl with my free hand. Eventually got her into a Tupperware container to get her home, and just today I finally got her into a test tube setup.

I've been wanting to do a setup ever since I started watching AntsCanada videos, Mikey's videos and awesome terrariums really made me remember how much I loved those old green ant farms and filling up my moms empty clear jugs with wild ants. I missed the Prenolepis Imparis fights earlier in the year, but then this girl fell on me and I figure it's fate, so I'm gonna do my best with her.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure she's a queen, she has a huge gaster and the hump on the thorax that makes me pretty sure. I was worried she might be a Solenopsis, but Batspiderfish on the identification forum pointed me to Crematogaster, and the point on her gaster makes me fairly certain that Batspiderfish is right.

Here's a few photos from when I first found her at work, and was trying desperately to learn how to use Imgur to upload pictures for identification.
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And here's a couple I took just tonight, after getting her into a test tube for founding.
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I never expected a queen to be so tiny, but with her hump and gaster, I have a hard time believing that she isn't. She's my only queen, so I've got my fingers crossed that finding her on my shirt when I wasn't even looking means it was destiny.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39247Post AntsLuxembourg
Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:13 am

Had a destiny like this as well. I was yesterday going to get a package back when I noticed some random flying insects. When I went to the screen to type in the codes to release my package (actually on the wrong station XD) I noticed a struggling queen ant and decided to rescue her from the spiderwebs. Luckily for her there was no spider inside. :D

So after that I thought I should go fetsh me a waterbottle to catch me some ants. So I went to the gas station and bought me a small 300ml bottle of water to drink it in one go. I actually saw a nice looking one which was not lasius niger but she flew away. :C

When I caught one of the ants arround there I decided to go and get my other package. Funnily enough on my way there 3 more queens ended up inside my car so I caught them before leaving. :D

Then I went to get me my old testtube from my first queen which was still at my grandma's place so after getting it I went for a walk to find me some more queens so I caught 5 more which I could all identify as lasius niger before returning home so I released 3 of them and kept 2 really good looking ones. ;D

I also caught a last one after getting something from the restaurant close by cause I wanted to celebrate with a nice dinner. ;D
When I got home I saw a last one on the handle of my appartments front door. So I took her with me while she was running all over my hands while I was climbing the stairs.

So in the end I had 7 queen ants of the type lasius niger. :P

Will go for another lookout at a diffrent location but this time just for any non lasius niger queen. :)
I would love to have at least one diffrent type of ants so I can study them a little bit. :D
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39257Post Spacepup
Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:26 am

Yeah, Crematogaster for me wasn't even on my radar of ants in Oklahoma, where I am. I had hoped for a Prenolepis Imparis earlier in the year because I heard they do really well indoor in cooler conditions. I was also crossing my fingers really hard and hoping for a miracle to find an Ondontomacus trapjaw ant, because I really like the bigger ants.

But I'll take what I can get, and I'm hoping my little queen does well.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39333Post Spacepup
Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:16 pm

Just a quick post, but she's already got eggs! Two little white dots, right on the dry end of the test tube! I brought her out, since she's only been in the test tube for a day, to show some house guests. I figured she hadn't been in there for too long yet, so showing her off once before leaving her alone for a week or two would be ok, but she's already got eggs! I'm so excited! This time next week is when I'm going to check on her again, I'll post pictures then if things are still going good.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39365Post antnest8
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:56 am

Hey, congratulations!!
I once caught a crematogaster queen and kept her alive for like all winter. your lucky because i caught mine so late in the season i had to hibernate her before she laid eggs.

your right though crematogaster was not even on my radar then but i learned some things about them so here are a few tips

1. their eggs take about 2 months to develop into adult ants.

2. the get frighted easily so only check on her once every 2 weeks if not she will eat her eggs.
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39592Post Spacepup
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:03 pm

Well guys, I just couldn't wait any longer, so I pulled her out to take a picture. She's got a lovely pile of eggs that she is tending to, looks to be around 10. I snapped a quick picture, and put her back before she could get too stressed, but honestly, I feel like she's been very chill about everything. Laying eggs so quickly, and she doesn't seem to really even react if I pull her test-tube out of it's cubby hole.

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Also, does anyone know when I should start feeding them again? Honey as soon as the first nanitics eclose? How many workers before I start trying to feed them proteins?

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 39611Post TheRealAntMan
Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:26 pm

One the first first worker encloses, give them a small drop of honey. Then when the colony has about 5 nanatics give them a small fruit fly or a cricket leg
An ants' strength can be rivaled by few animals compared to relative body size.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 40898Post Spacepup
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:29 pm

Some update photos, as I learn to get some pretty good shots with my phone.

I think I may have scared her a bit when I exposed her to light, even though up till now she's been really chill about me checking up way too frequently. This time she seemed to be tending to a ball of brood when I picked her up, so she started moving around, leaving a little trail of brood behind her.

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I'm still leaning towards her being Crematogaster, though I'm not sure on the Species. I think she looks real pretty, with that red color and black Prothorax and Propodeum. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 40900Post TheRealAntMan
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:47 pm

Look at her physogastric gaster. She’ll be laying plenty more eggs soon.
An ants' strength can be rivaled by few animals compared to relative body size.

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Re: Hopes and dreams riding on a single Crematogaster Queen

Post: # 40922Post Spacepup
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:03 pm

Had to look up Physogastric, but yeah. She's been laying a lot more eggs than I kind of expected.

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