C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 60861Post sartwell90
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:15 am

So very curiously, one of the nanitics is moving the more mature pupa back into the sugar water tube - which is the only area of the nest exposed to bright light. I am continuing to observe their behavior because I'm not sure why, are they getting these pupae separated to eclose them? One of the pupae indeed has some legs and antennae sticking out, but I don't see them moving about yet - so it'll still be a bit on that one. Another of the pupae moved over is showing some exoskeletal darkening inside. The abdomen section is barely visible through the silk, due to it being darker.

I have noticed previous to having this colony (in my last colony I was able to witness a full eclosing, before their queen met an untimely end) that this species seems to wait awhile to eclose their sisters, not like some species that will eclose even when the exoskeleton is pale/transparent. The Camponotus novaeboracensis seem to eclose only after their sisters get about 30-50% darkened and hardened. During this intrapupal hardening, the ants do seem to wake up - eventually getting restless and waving about the antennae or legs they manage to stick through the silk. I presume this is to tell their sisters 'hey! get me outta here!'.

I'll watch closely so I can get the magic moment recorded - it's very hard to get pictures of the limbs that have breached the pupae right now, but I'll do my best - especially since it appears they might make it very easy for me to record (if they keep these pupae in the exposed area).
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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 60933Post sartwell90
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:57 pm

Good news everyone!

This afternoon a worker was successfully eclosed, followed by a couple hours of being pestered by her sisters while they cleaned her off. I find the eclosing process so interesting and will be happy to share with you video of the process soon. It is especially fun to watch how clumsy these new ants are and how much they seem to be annoyed by the necessary attention given to them when they are getting their pupal casing cleaned off.

In other news, I gave the winged Tetramorium queen a more natural and small setup and within a day of being introduced to this non-test tube. She vanished! I have since spotted her claustral chamber and her wings laying at the surface. It appears she still needed some kind of environmental queues to start the nesting part of her adventure. She will be the only of my queens to be completely hidden from me until workers arrive - assuming she is fertile.

The other Tetramorium queen that you have been getting regular updates on now has a huge ball of eggs and larvae. I can no longer successfully count the ball but it is easily over 50 eggs. No workers yet and no pupae that I have seen, but later this week - based on reported maturation rates of this species - we should be seeing some pupae being formed. She is much smaller, so it might be difficult to spot. Also, since she doesn't have her first workers she is still locked away in a dark box, once her first workers are eclosed and have spent some time maturing - she will be fed in a tubs and tubes setup followed by a low-stress move into a different test tube, and then into a test tube portal setup similar to The Carpenters. I will have to take additional precautions due to my expectations that Tetramorium will be more difficult to contain.

Even more good news! The future outworld homes for the 3 colonies will be in progress soon, it will be a long while yet before The Carpenters will be ready to be given a larger outworld. But I have a feeling once I start seeing Tetramorium workers, their colony will be expanding rapidly, and they will be ready for an outworld much sooner.

Finally, the lone surviving worker from the first long-since-passed C. novaeboracensis queen is still healthy and is being taking care of like a princess. She has been helping me test food (ie. I found some honey sticks at my local store). In a way she is my canary, to make sure that new things are safe for my other colonies. I am not sure how long workers of this species typically live, but as I've said before, I'll care for her until that time comes - and in the mean time she will help ensure the health and safety of my other ants. What a wonderful lone warrior.
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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61182Post sartwell90
Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:06 pm

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C. novaeboracensis
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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61183Post Jessewitt
Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:43 pm

I have a test tube set up with only cotton and water in it. There’s a queen and about 20 workers. Out of no where some type of small beatle about the size of the ants showed up. I wonder what it is and where it came from

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61211Post Hawkeye
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:03 pm

Jessewitt wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:43 pm
I have a test tube set up with only cotton and water in it. There’s a queen and about 20 workers. Out of no where some type of small beatle about the size of the ants showed up. I wonder what it is and where it came from
Curious, is it possible you fed them an insect which might have carried an egg on its body?

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61236Post Jessewitt
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:58 pm

I don’t usually give any insects to the ones in the test tubes. Whatever it was I left it in there. They are fire ants so I don’t thing it’s a danger to them. I was kinda hoping it was one of those creatures that shares the honey like substance with them. I forgot what they were called

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61237Post Jessewitt
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:59 pm

Sorry to intrude on your post lol idk how to make my own

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61238Post Jessewitt
Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:00 pm

Another theory is this... I have used these same test tubes for many many ants for years. Whatever it is could have came from an old set up I had in there

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61240Post Hawkeye
Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:24 pm

Jessewitt wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:58 pm
I don’t usually give any insects to the ones in the test tubes. Whatever it was I left it in there. They are fire ants so I don’t thing it’s a danger to them. I was kinda hoping it was one of those creatures that shares the honey like substance with them. I forgot what they were called
Aphids? They need plant sap to survive...

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Re: C. noveboracensis and T. spE: My first dive into ant keeping

Post: # 61241Post Hawkeye
Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:26 pm

Jessewitt wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:59 pm
Sorry to intrude on your post lol idk how to make my own
Select a general category, then post a new topic

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