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BrunoB
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Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42007Post BrunoB
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:53 pm

Hi everyone, I just checked on my 4 lasius queens I caught two weeks days ago.and all of them seem to be doing relatively fine. But one of them, the only one that kept her wings started to spreed her eggs arround the test tube. Do any of you know if this is normal? It's my first time raising ants but I find it odd for her to spread her eggs like that.
I'll leave a picture of one of the others and the one who is spreading the eggs for comparison.
Thank you for your time :)
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cheetawolf
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42025Post cheetawolf
Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:25 pm

i have the same kind of queen, and i caught 11, do you know the exact species?
yay for ants!

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2x tetramorium immigrans
18x lasius niger

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BrunoB
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42027Post BrunoB
Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:37 pm

Unfortunately no, they had they mating season the last two to three weeks here in Portugal and they were literaly everywhere. I'm waiting for a better camera, couldn't get ID with the fotos I took. I did some reserch and suspect they are Lasius niger but I'm not shure

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CashTheEntomoligist
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42030Post CashTheEntomoligist
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:22 pm

It Looks Like A Formica Queen Well Its How I Look At It Also. Is The Queen Ignoring Some Eggs, Spreading Them Out? If So Then She Is Unfertile.
Keeper Of: Pogonomyrmex barbatus Queen 2x
Brachymyrmex patagonicus Mayr Queen 2x
Dorymyrmex Queen 2x
Dream Species: Pheidole Spp. (Big Headed Ant)

BrunoB
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42032Post BrunoB
Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:36 pm

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This is the best foto I managed to take of one of the qeens (they are all of the same specie)
Well, the winged queen has an odd story xD I was on the river and found her on a rock sticking out of the water. I don't know how I spotted her xD She was very still and I thought she was going to die but I prepered a setup for her anyway. She was the first I saw and made me look arround for others. The other 3 I found on the same river bank just walking arround, 2 on the same day of the winged queen.
What would happen if she is unfertille? would all the ants be male and just die with the queen? I though the queen would just die without laying eggs if she was infertile.
I hoppe thats not the case, I has very happy on the first time I checked on her and found out that she also survived and layed her eggs.
Would she spred her eggs arround for any other reason? There is still a pile next to the water reservoir.

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CashTheEntomoligist
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42046Post CashTheEntomoligist
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:06 pm

If She Is Unfertile She Will Give Birth To Only Males, If This Happens One Way You Could Do It Is: Find A Male Of Same Genus/Species And Put Them Together It's A Dumb Method I Tried It, It Worked Im Guessing I Was Lucky At The Moment. If She Is Fertile This Could Be Dangerous.
Keeper Of: Pogonomyrmex barbatus Queen 2x
Brachymyrmex patagonicus Mayr Queen 2x
Dorymyrmex Queen 2x
Dream Species: Pheidole Spp. (Big Headed Ant)

idahoantgirl
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42049Post idahoantgirl
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:33 pm

Spreading the eggs does not mean that she is unfertile, just like queen ants shedding their wings is not proof.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

BrunoB
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42077Post BrunoB
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:53 pm

Well, I'll update here next time I check on her. I find it odd because of the four queens she is the only one doing this, all the others have their eggs neatly piled near the water reservoir.
I thought that maybe she didn't like her setup for some reason and was trying to move the eggs somewere else. Would it be a good idea to attach anotter tube to the setup somehow and see if she moves to it?
Or should I give her a drop off honey? I feel like she just abandoned the eggs, could she possible be hungry and seraching for food? I beleave she belongs to a fully claustral species but maybe she got stressed and felt the need to feed?

idahoantgirl
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42083Post idahoantgirl
Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:28 pm

Honestly I really think giving her food would just stress her out further. The very best thing you can do is leave her alone for several weeks (not even peeking) and check on her then.
Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

Keeping Tetramorium immigrans, Tapinoma Sessile

BrunoB
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Re: Queen spreading her eggs randomly

Post: # 42147Post BrunoB
Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:04 pm

Thank you all for your advice, I'll let her be alone for now.

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