URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

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PTasker15
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URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33566Post PTasker15
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:00 pm

HELP!I Was Flipping Over Rocks And I Found A Queen Ant With A Wing Beside A Massive Lasius Neoniger Colony!She Is Parasitic...Her Jaws..Build..Etc....But I Don't Have A Species ID On Her!I Have No Idea What Species She Is!Ill Share Picture On Instagram
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She Is A Pure Blood Red
She Has A Temple Like Pheidole
She Ripped Apart A Lasius Neoniger Worker I Offered
The Only Wing She Has Left Is Kinda Brown
She's 7 MM(Guess)
She Hasn't Layed Eggs
The Last One If Her I Kept Didn't Lay Eggs And Died
My current ants
Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
Psudomyrmex Graccilis
Temnothroax Longiveps
Tetramourium Bicarinatum
Pheidole Moerens
Pheidole Obscuriothorax
Brachymyrmex Patgonicus
Camponotus Decipens,And Castanus.

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antnest8
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33567Post antnest8
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:23 pm

is there any way you can share the pic. on the forum?
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33569Post Martialis
Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:08 pm

Nobody is going to go onto instagram. Post the picture here.
Keeper of

Selliing:

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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33572Post PTasker15
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:25 pm

Martialis wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:08 pm
Nobody is going to go onto instagram. Post the picture here.
Says "Picture File Too Large"
My current ants
Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
Psudomyrmex Graccilis
Temnothroax Longiveps
Tetramourium Bicarinatum
Pheidole Moerens
Pheidole Obscuriothorax
Brachymyrmex Patgonicus
Camponotus Decipens,And Castanus.

PTasker15
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33573Post PTasker15
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:40 pm

PTasker15 wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:25 pm
Martialis wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:08 pm
Nobody is going to go onto instagram. Post the picture here.
Here
:geek: https://www.flickr.com/photos/139051342@N03/albums/72157690750703951
My current ants
Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
Psudomyrmex Graccilis
Temnothroax Longiveps
Tetramourium Bicarinatum
Pheidole Moerens
Pheidole Obscuriothorax
Brachymyrmex Patgonicus
Camponotus Decipens,And Castanus.

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Batspiderfish
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33574Post Batspiderfish
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm

Not a social parasite. Looks like Tetramorium bicarinatum, but we would need better pictures and an actual measurement to do a proper ID.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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antnest8
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33575Post antnest8
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:26 am

are all social parasites the same genus as the species as their host?
keeper of
3 tetremorium queens
2 C. pennsylvanicus
1 C novaeboracensis
1 tapinoma sessile colony
!!And A CREMATOGASTER QUEEN!!

PTasker15
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33576Post PTasker15
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:50 am

Yes.But It Ripped Apart A Lasius Neoniger I Offered.
My current ants
Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
Psudomyrmex Graccilis
Temnothroax Longiveps
Tetramourium Bicarinatum
Pheidole Moerens
Pheidole Obscuriothorax
Brachymyrmex Patgonicus
Camponotus Decipens,And Castanus.

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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33577Post Aaron567
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:22 am

Looks like Tetramorium bicarinatum. Semi-claustral, not parasitic.
Keeper of:
Brachymyrmex patagonicus
Crematogaster sp.
Dorymyrmex bureni
Pheidole bicarinata
Pheidole moerens
Pheidole obscurithorax
Solenopsis invicta


My queens still founding a colony are:
Strumigenys sp.

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Batspiderfish
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Re: URGENT:PARASETIC QUEEN ANT

Post: # 33578Post Batspiderfish
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:14 am

antnest8 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:26 am
are all social parasites the same genus as the species as their host?
For the most part, yes, but the taxonomy hasn't quite caught up with this trend. The likes of Polyergus and Strongylognathus are still distinct genera, even though they are they are so closely related to their host species. With the exception of some guest ants (i.e. Formicoxenus, which don't enlist the workforce of their host nest) all social parasites evolved from their host.

Some ants were recently combined with their host as we discovered their relatedness:
Teleutomyrmex and Anergates have recently been reunited with their host, Tetramorium.
Acanthomyops (the claviger group of Lasius) used to be its own genus.
Temnothorax americanus used to be part of Harpagoxenus.

Most social parasites were never separated from their host genus.
If you enjoy my expertise and identifications, please do not put wild populations at risk of disease by releasing pet colonies. We are responsible to give our pets the best care we can manage for the rest of their lives.

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