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antperson24
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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95885Post antperson24
Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:38 pm

Jampott wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:58 pm
antperson24 wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:10 pm
Jampott wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:15 pm
How about these
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tKyTjzLFDiRM6MYg8
Those blackish spots ar the moldy expulsion that she does
Wait! I have seen this before! When this happened to me the queen bit the egg to eat it, and it broke but she never ate it and it turned into a mush, and started to mold. Could this be it, or have you seen her lay the goo? Also I have had Lasius before, and these eggs a not natural.
Nope I haven't seen her lay goop
Hmm that's weird... ...maybe she has a parasite or something? :?
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There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95896Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:35 am

antperson24 wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:38 pm
Jampott wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:58 pm
antperson24 wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:10 pm

Wait! I have seen this before! When this happened to me the queen bit the egg to eat it, and it broke but she never ate it and it turned into a mush, and started to mold. Could this be it, or have you seen her lay the goo? Also I have had Lasius before, and these eggs a not natural.
Nope I haven't seen her lay goop
Hmm that's weird... ...maybe she has a parasite or something? :?
She’s pooping parasites eggs for them maybe
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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95902Post Jampott
Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:52 am

It is a lasius Niger so maybe she is eating her eggs. But why would she do that. Is she hungry
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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95905Post antperson24
Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:45 am

Jampott wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:52 am
It is a lasius Niger so maybe she is eating her eggs. But why would she do that. Is she hungry
She should not need food, unless she already has her first workers.
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95910Post antperson24
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:34 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm
Jampott wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:15 pm
How about these
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tKyTjzLFDiRM6MYg8
Those blackish spots ar the moldy expulsion that she does
This is a wild guess: Your queen has some sort of parasites that infest the eggs and that’s how they reproduce.
That what I thought, a parasite that resides in the eggs. But I will do some looking on the internet, and see if I can prove this correct. :)
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95911Post antperson24
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:40 pm

antperson24 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:34 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm
Jampott wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:15 pm
How about these
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tKyTjzLFDiRM6MYg8
Those blackish spots ar the moldy expulsion that she does
This is a wild guess: Your queen has some sort of parasites that infest the eggs and that’s how they reproduce.
That what I thought, a parasite that resides in the eggs. But I will do some looking on the internet, and see if I can prove this correct. :)
Found something for you Jampott! ;) It is an article about parasites in ants:https://www.antkeepers.com/facts/ants/ant-parasites/ Do any of these things match what is happening to you?
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95917Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:24 am

antperson24 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:40 pm
antperson24 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:34 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm


This is a wild guess: Your queen has some sort of parasites that infest the eggs and that’s how they reproduce.
That what I thought, a parasite that resides in the eggs. But I will do some looking on the internet, and see if I can prove this correct. :)
Found something for you Jampott! ;) It is an article about parasites in ants:https://www.antkeepers.com/facts/ants/ant-parasites/ Do any of these things match what is happening to you?
Would look into antwiki page listed parasites and reproduction methods. Could be quite helpful.
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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95921Post Jampott
Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:40 am

antperson24 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:40 pm
antperson24 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:34 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:52 pm


This is a wild guess: Your queen has some sort of parasites that infest the eggs and that’s how they reproduce.
That what I thought, a parasite that resides in the eggs. But I will do some looking on the internet, and see if I can prove this correct. :)
Found something for you Jampott! ;) It is an article about parasites in ants:https://www.antkeepers.com/facts/ants/ant-parasites/ Do any of these things match what is happening to you?
The closest one is
Other flies take advantage of the nuptial flights and lay their eggs in newly mated queens. This stops her from laying her own eggs and will make her, without her knowing it, take care of the flies larvae and pupae. The queen will later die, letting the fly grow into adulthood without her meddling
But she is not laying any eggs at all and this piece suggests that she lays the flys eggs

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1 lasius Niger (founding)

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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95922Post Jampott
Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:44 am

I also think she may be dieing as she keeps flipping over then curling up.
Currently attempting to keep:
1 messor barbarus about 5 workers
1 lasius Niger (founding)

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Re: Queen problems

Post: # 95949Post antperson24
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:06 am

Jampott wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:44 am
I also think she may be dieing as she keeps flipping over then curling up.
Maybe she just can't lay eggs because of the parasite, and it has eaten enough of her that she will die?
Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?
There are so many fascinating ants right where you live!
I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that aren't in your area.

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