I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 92866Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun May 29, 2022 11:36 am

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 6:59 pm
Saturday Queen update
The water reservoirs have declined a fair amount since the last check so i will be attaching them to portals so they can move into the new tubes at their own pace. Any ideas why the water runs out so quickly or is this the normal time when they run out? For clarity I would like to mention that they are not bone dry just a little bellow half when held horizontally The reason I consider them low is that they are only covering half the cotton in a test tube meaning it could be difficult for the queens to get their water.
Queen #2’s brood looks smaller then #3’s and #4’s and it looks like some eggs are missing :? :https://photos.app.goo.gl/PnLzKCHSkLqNf8GA6
Queen#3’s brood pile, has two larva already!! :D super hyped now :https://photos.app.goo.gl/WMYFX6uUpY3aX5Yy5
Queen #4’s brood pile is huge, has about 9 to 11 small eggs I counted, I tried my best the test tube is basically frosted :https://photos.app.goo.gl/ACFz32SPXXhyA7ca8
I only have two portals at the moment so i will be moving #2 and #3 in first and i put a small piece of mealworm in each cause why not ;). Ps photos of each queen listed after there sections.
Eggs can disappear for one of several reason.

1) Nuptial flight took too long
If an ant queen has an extensive nuptial flight, longer than a few days, she will start consuming wing muscle too early. Consequently, the queen eats some of her eggs, and then if she gets pupae, one or two of them. That’s why some people feed queens right after they catch them.

2)Infertility
Some queens, that mated, are just unable to raise brood. They end up eating and relaying eggs over, and over, again, until eventually they die. Sometimes, they have colonies but stop laying eggs, and the workers die off.(This is uncommon though for colonies)

3)Lack of mating
Some queens just don’t mate, which you know, which causes them to eat eggs due to their death…(Not caring or the eggs)

4)She was framed
Sometimes, larvae hatch and get to work eating. Their first target is the surrounding eggs, which they eat until they are full.

Or she could have eaten some eggs for no reason at all, or to feed the new larvae. This is very likely.
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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 92879Post LaniLyne0106
Sun May 29, 2022 5:49 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 11:36 am
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 6:59 pm
Saturday Queen update
The water reservoirs have declined a fair amount since the last check so i will be attaching them to portals so they can move into the new tubes at their own pace. Any ideas why the water runs out so quickly or is this the normal time when they run out? For clarity I would like to mention that they are not bone dry just a little bellow half when held horizontally The reason I consider them low is that they are only covering half the cotton in a test tube meaning it could be difficult for the queens to get their water.
Queen #2’s brood looks smaller then #3’s and #4’s and it looks like some eggs are missing :? :https://photos.app.goo.gl/PnLzKCHSkLqNf8GA6
Queen#3’s brood pile, has two larva already!! :D super hyped now :https://photos.app.goo.gl/WMYFX6uUpY3aX5Yy5
Queen #4’s brood pile is huge, has about 9 to 11 small eggs I counted, I tried my best the test tube is basically frosted :https://photos.app.goo.gl/ACFz32SPXXhyA7ca8
I only have two portals at the moment so i will be moving #2 and #3 in first and i put a small piece of mealworm in each cause why not ;). Ps photos of each queen listed after there sections.
Eggs can disappear for one of several reason.

1) Nuptial flight took too long
If an ant queen has an extensive nuptial flight, longer than a few days, she will start consuming wing muscle too early. Consequently, the queen eats some of her eggs, and then if she gets pupae, one or two of them. That’s why some people feed queens right after they catch them.

2)Infertility
Some queens, that mated, are just unable to raise brood. They end up eating and relaying eggs over, and over, again, until eventually they die. Sometimes, they have colonies but stop laying eggs, and the workers die off.(This is uncommon though for colonies)

3)Lack of mating
Some queens just don’t mate, which you know, which causes them to eat eggs due to their death…(Not caring or the eggs)

4)She was framed
Sometimes, larvae hatch and get to work eating. Their first target is the surrounding eggs, which they eat until they are full.

Or she could have eaten some eggs for no reason at all, or to feed the new larvae. This is very likely.
Oh wow I didn’t know about the larva eating the eggs :shock:. That must explain why they like to separate the larva from the eggs. Nice to know.

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 92895Post SolenopsisKeeper
Mon May 30, 2022 9:26 am

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 5:49 pm
SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 11:36 am
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 6:59 pm
Saturday Queen update
The water reservoirs have declined a fair amount since the last check so i will be attaching them to portals so they can move into the new tubes at their own pace. Any ideas why the water runs out so quickly or is this the normal time when they run out? For clarity I would like to mention that they are not bone dry just a little bellow half when held horizontally The reason I consider them low is that they are only covering half the cotton in a test tube meaning it could be difficult for the queens to get their water.
Queen #2’s brood looks smaller then #3’s and #4’s and it looks like some eggs are missing :? :https://photos.app.goo.gl/PnLzKCHSkLqNf8GA6
Queen#3’s brood pile, has two larva already!! :D super hyped now :https://photos.app.goo.gl/WMYFX6uUpY3aX5Yy5
Queen #4’s brood pile is huge, has about 9 to 11 small eggs I counted, I tried my best the test tube is basically frosted :https://photos.app.goo.gl/ACFz32SPXXhyA7ca8
I only have two portals at the moment so i will be moving #2 and #3 in first and i put a small piece of mealworm in each cause why not ;). Ps photos of each queen listed after there sections.
Eggs can disappear for one of several reason.

1) Nuptial flight took too long
If an ant queen has an extensive nuptial flight, longer than a few days, she will start consuming wing muscle too early. Consequently, the queen eats some of her eggs, and then if she gets pupae, one or two of them. That’s why some people feed queens right after they catch them.

2)Infertility
Some queens, that mated, are just unable to raise brood. They end up eating and relaying eggs over, and over, again, until eventually they die. Sometimes, they have colonies but stop laying eggs, and the workers die off.(This is uncommon though for colonies)

3)Lack of mating
Some queens just don’t mate, which you know, which causes them to eat eggs due to their death…(Not caring or the eggs)

4)She was framed
Sometimes, larvae hatch and get to work eating. Their first target is the surrounding eggs, which they eat until they are full.

Or she could have eaten some eggs for no reason at all, or to feed the new larvae. This is very likely.
Oh wow I didn’t know about the larva eating the eggs :shock:. That must explain why they like to separate the larva from the eggs. Nice to know.
Yes, my pyramid ant queens have larvae who devour one of two food sources-eggs, or other larvae smaller than them
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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93138Post LaniLyne0106
Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:21 pm

Weekly queen update
Nothing special this week, continued growth of all three queen’s brood. Queen #2 and #3 have not moved into the new tubes yet it looks like they didn’t even touch the mealworm so it’s most likely they didn’t even leave their current tubes (I removed the mealworm). They must not be worried about the low water yet.
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93310Post LaniLyne0106
Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:29 pm

Late queen update
All of queens #2’s and #3’s brood is now all pupae! (pupa?) and #4 shockingly only has 2 pupae and 2 larva a huge decrease from the last time I checked on her that or I counted incorrectly. Neither queen #2 or #3 have moved into their new tubes but there is a bit of water missing in each in the form of tiny bubbles so they might be drinking out of it but they don’t want to move yet. Photos of the queens next week :D
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93313Post SYUTEO
Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:42 pm

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:29 pm
Late queen update
All of queens #2’s and #3’s brood is now all pupae! (pupa?) and #4 shockingly only has 2 pupae and 2 larva a huge decrease from the last time I checked on her that or I counted incorrectly. Neither queen #2 or #3 have moved into their new tubes but there is a bit of water missing in each in the form of tiny bubbles so they might be drinking out of it but they don’t want to move yet. Photos of the queens next week :D
Pupa is singular, pupae is plural.

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93314Post LaniLyne0106
Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:58 pm

SYUTEO wrote:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:42 pm
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:29 pm
Late queen update
All of queens #2’s and #3’s brood is now all pupae! (pupa?) and #4 shockingly only has 2 pupae and 2 larva a huge decrease from the last time I checked on her that or I counted incorrectly. Neither queen #2 or #3 have moved into their new tubes but there is a bit of water missing in each in the form of tiny bubbles so they might be drinking out of it but they don’t want to move yet. Photos of the queens next week :D
Pupa is singular, pupae is plural.
Gotcha thanks :)
➪ Ant Colonies
• Pogonomyrmex occidentalis colony
• 3 Camponotus Sansabeanus colonies
• Camponotus Vicinus
• 1 Formica Fusca
• 5 Liometopum apiculatum
• Pogonomyrmex Pima
• Pogonomyrmex Barbatus
• pheidole queen

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93706Post LaniLyne0106
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 pm

This is turning into just Sunday queen updates :lol:
No loses yet and continued growth on the remaining larvae and eggs (only a few in each that I failed to see last week :roll: ) the queens certainly don’t want to move into the new tubes but are still drinking water from them which has caused a problem with queen #4. She has run out of water almost completely so I decided to take one of Tar Heel ants nest mates and stick it into the opening wrapped with cotton. I witnessed her drinking from it shortly after installing it so it works I’m worried she may try to remove the cotton and get out. What do you guys think?
Photos:
Queen #2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/uRSoouLp1c4uJMtj9
Queen #3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Dmqu3BXojvKcv6r6
Queen #4 https://photos.app.goo.gl/EyUZWWuchbsehTh7A
And happy Father’s Day to all those fathers out there :D
Edit: oh yea and queen 4 has some more pupae then last time.

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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93707Post SolenopsisKeeper
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:59 pm

LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 pm
This is turning into just Sunday queen updates :lol:
No loses yet and continued growth on the remaining larvae and eggs (only a few in each that I failed to see last week :roll: ) the queens certainly don’t want to move into the new tubes but are still drinking water from them which has caused a problem with queen #4. She has run out of water almost completely so I decided to take one of Tar Heel ants nest mates and stick it into the opening wrapped with cotton. I witnessed her drinking from it shortly after installing it so it works I’m worried she may try to remove the cotton and get out. What do you guys think?
Photos:
Queen #2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/uRSoouLp1c4uJMtj9
Queen #3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Dmqu3BXojvKcv6r6
Queen #4 https://photos.app.goo.gl/EyUZWWuchbsehTh7A
And happy Father’s Day to all those fathers out there :D
Edit: oh yea and queen 4 has some more pupae then last time.
I would say natural selection wood kill her. Naturally, if a queen gets out of her founding chamber(claustral) she is usually spotted pretty quick and killed. I doubt she will burrow, but it is possible. Now the workers are a different story…
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Re: I caught a camponotus sansabeanus queen!

Post: # 93711Post LaniLyne0106
Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:03 pm

SolenopsisKeeper wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:59 pm
LaniLyne0106 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 pm
This is turning into just Sunday queen updates :lol:
No loses yet and continued growth on the remaining larvae and eggs (only a few in each that I failed to see last week :roll: ) the queens certainly don’t want to move into the new tubes but are still drinking water from them which has caused a problem with queen #4. She has run out of water almost completely so I decided to take one of Tar Heel ants nest mates and stick it into the opening wrapped with cotton. I witnessed her drinking from it shortly after installing it so it works I’m worried she may try to remove the cotton and get out. What do you guys think?
Photos:
Queen #2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/uRSoouLp1c4uJMtj9
Queen #3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Dmqu3BXojvKcv6r6
Queen #4 https://photos.app.goo.gl/EyUZWWuchbsehTh7A
And happy Father’s Day to all those fathers out there :D
Edit: oh yea and queen 4 has some more pupae then last time.
I would say natural selection wood kill her. Naturally, if a queen gets out of her founding chamber(claustral) she is usually spotted pretty quick and killed. I doubt she will burrow, but it is possible. Now the workers are a different story…
I won’t leave my MacGyvered water supply on there for too long I’m just currently out of test tubes and portals so I ordered some new ones (glass tubes this time)

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