ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

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Jager89
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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77412Post Jager89
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm

GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:47 pm
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:43 pm
GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:33 pm


I have them in like 4 months and this year she started to produce a lot of eggs, and i was so happy :). Im not sure if they were stressed /and if she was killed by workers, they hatched last week.
If your other queens are in open set ups like that as well i would keep them in a test tube set up until they have way more workers.
When i put it in this set up queen had 9 ant workers and they are big, i have big specie, and i read that when u have about 10 worker ants (if big) u can put them in set up like this.
I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77413Post GardenAnts
Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm

Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm
GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:47 pm
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:43 pm


If your other queens are in open set ups like that as well i would keep them in a test tube set up until they have way more workers.
When i put it in this set up queen had 9 ant workers and they are big, i have big specie, and i read that when u have about 10 worker ants (if big) u can put them in set up like this.
I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
This ment for small ants?

Jager89
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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77414Post Jager89
Fri May 07, 2021 1:01 pm

GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm
GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:47 pm


When i put it in this set up queen had 9 ant workers and they are big, i have big specie, and i read that when u have about 10 worker ants (if big) u can put them in set up like this.
I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
This ment for small ants?
When i had asked it was a Generalized question because I had not found a species i wanted yet. I was after Honey pot ants but none are where i live so i ended up getting winter ants, Queens are about 8mm with workers between 2.5-3.5 mm so they are smaller than Camponotus Species. If that is the species you have.

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77415Post GardenAnts
Fri May 07, 2021 1:06 pm

Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 1:01 pm
GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm


I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
This ment for small ants?
When i had asked it was a Generalized question because I had not found a species i wanted yet. I was after Honey pot ants but none are where i live so i ended up getting winter ants, Queens are about 8mm with workers between 2.5-3.5 mm so they are smaller than Camponotus Species. If that is the species you have.
Well my worker ants around 8mm and queen around 9mm.

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77416Post Jager89
Fri May 07, 2021 1:26 pm

I would wait then till about 20+ workers but that's just me I like to play it by the rule of better safe than sorry, lol hopefully someone with more Exp with larger species will pop in with some advice.

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77445Post GardenAnts
Sun May 09, 2021 7:59 am

Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 1:01 pm
GardenAnts wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm


I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
This ment for small ants?
When i had asked it was a Generalized question because I had not found a species i wanted yet. I was after Honey pot ants but none are where i live so i ended up getting winter ants, Queens are about 8mm with workers between 2.5-3.5 mm so they are smaller than Camponotus Species. If that is the species you have.
Jager just one question, lets say ants didnt kill queen, soo would u merge rest of the colony(10) with new queen. Please answer!

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77477Post AntsLuxembourg
Mon May 10, 2021 7:11 am

Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm
I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
Big oof from my side. I attached the testtube to an AC Tower because I was too eager to get them to move out of the testtube. However they have created themselfs a nice and new founding chamber so they can grow in there.
GardenAnts wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 7:59 am
Jager just one question, lets say ants didnt kill queen, soo would u merge rest of the colony(10) with new queen. Please answer!
I would say no. I just wouldn't want to risk it that they may battle it out. Keep them seperate and make some observations if you want. You could try to interact with them a bit more than with the still healthy colony. When my first Messor barbarus queen died, there were still some workers left so I kept them just to get an idea on how old workers can get. They are still alive. Although I should have marked their birthdates when I started to have a more precise date.
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony.

Colonies:
1 - Messor Barbarus
Founding colonies:
2 - Lasius Niger Colony
Need help or want to help? https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=18153#p70566

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77516Post GardenAnts
Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 am

AntsLuxembourg wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 7:11 am
Jager89 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm
I have been told 20-50+ minimum before even attaching a small AC test tube portal.
Big oof from my side. I attached the testtube to an AC Tower because I was too eager to get them to move out of the testtube. However they have created themselfs a nice and new founding chamber so they can grow in there.
GardenAnts wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 7:59 am
Jager just one question, lets say ants didnt kill queen, soo would u merge rest of the colony(10) with new queen. Please answer!
I would say no. I just wouldn't want to risk it that they may battle it out. Keep them seperate and make some observations if you want. You could try to interact with them a bit more than with the still healthy colony. When my first Messor barbarus queen died, there were still some workers left so I kept them just to get an idea on how old workers can get. They are still alive. Although I should have marked their birthdates when I started to have a more precise date.
Maybe i can try to give 1 worker every day/ 2 days to new queen? Soo that worker will accept new queen.

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Re: ANTS KILLED ANT QUEEN

Post: # 77554Post AntsLuxembourg
Wed May 12, 2021 2:27 am

GardenAnts wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 am
Maybe i can try to give 1 worker every day/ 2 days to new queen? Soo that worker will accept new queen.
That is not how ants work. Just keep them seperated from each other. Althought it seems impossible to convince you that it's not a good idea to do so, so feel free to try it and learn from your possible mistakes.
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony.

Colonies:
1 - Messor Barbarus
Founding colonies:
2 - Lasius Niger Colony
Need help or want to help? https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=18153#p70566

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