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Nate440
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Location: Rochester, New Hampshire

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63062Post Nate440
Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:48 am

CANant wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:45 am
Came across this helpful list “barriers for what species”
Does anyone have any personal experience and application methods?
One thing I’ve noticed: people always say “baby powder” but be careful purchasing some baby powder is cornstarch based and not pure talcum powder that we want.

http://www.formiculture.com/topic/646-list-of-species-that-can-cross-a-specified-barrier-contributed-to-by-members/
I use extra virgin olive oil that a bought for a dollar and I works great, they hate having the oil on their feet and they just avoid it all together, at first they tried to cross it a few times and then they’d clean them self’s for like 5 minutes,( don’t worry it doesn’t hurt them), just imagine the annoyance of having oil on your bare feet! now they don’t even bother trying to cross. I re apply once or twice a week depending on how humid it is, I found when there’s more moisture it breaks up the oil after a while if you don’t re-apply. Hope that helps

I use this method with my carpenter ants and newly indentified Formica ants! To be honest I have fluon but I don’t even use it!

Hawkeye
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Location: Almelo

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63063Post Hawkeye
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:18 am

Nate440 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:28 pm
Hey fellow ant keepers! I’m new to ant keeping and was wondering if you could help me identify this species of ant, it looks very much like a camponotus pennsyvanicus but they are much smaller, I know this because I have two Pennsylvanicus colonies already.

Does anyone know if this is a type of camponotus species? Or maybe something else, I don’t know very much when is comes to identifying specific species

Hawkeye has been very helpful to me but I think we’re both getting frustrated trying to figure out what this is, unfortunately my camera isn’t great


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They actually look quite similar to this one too:
https://www.alexanderwild.com/Ants/Taxonomic-List-of-Ant-Genera/Camponotus/i-NCx9Q9H/A apparently the smallest carpenter ants

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CabboAntsGuy
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Location: Wisconsin, U.S.

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63065Post CabboAntsGuy
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:29 am

Man, It's getting hard to keep up with this page. Welcome Nate440! So happy to hear about everyone's colonies. Can't wait for more updates! :D

-StirTheFire
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3 camponotus pennsylvanicus
2 formica subsericea
The Camponotus Crew! https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15267
Need help or want to help? https://forum.AntsCanada.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=18153#p70566

Nate440
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Location: Rochester, New Hampshire

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63066Post Nate440
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:04 am

Hawkeye wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:18 am
Nate440 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:28 pm
Hey fellow ant keepers! I’m new to ant keeping and was wondering if you could help me identify this species of ant, it looks very much like a camponotus pennsyvanicus but they are much smaller, I know this because I have two Pennsylvanicus colonies already.

Does anyone know if this is a type of camponotus species? Or maybe something else, I don’t know very much when is comes to identifying specific species

Hawkeye has been very helpful to me but I think we’re both getting frustrated trying to figure out what this is, unfortunately my camera isn’t great


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They actually look quite similar to this one too:
https://www.alexanderwild.com/Ants/Taxonomic-List-of-Ant-Genera/Camponotus/i-NCx9Q9H/A apparently the smallest carpenter ants



Oh boy I just don’t know anymore xD they really do look just like it

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http://www.myrmecos.net/2011/07/26/how-to-tell-the-difference-between-formica-and-camponotus/

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They’re so little though... thanks for the help guys and for being so welcoming despite me with the shot gun posting lol

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LasiusSapien
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Location: Bristol

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63069Post LasiusSapien
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:38 am

shout out to www.britishants.com ordered Friday morning received Saturday afternoon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/guskkxosp4jh5nz/IMG_20190824_172615.jpg?dl=0
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs

Tzakeran
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Location: Pensacola, FL

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63070Post Tzakeran
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Welcome to Nate440 and Shinde! Glad to meet you! I'm also leaning towards a Formica species for you Nate440. That back-shape trick is pretty darn clever!
Camponotus sp./Formica sp./Odontomachus sp.

CANant
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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:04 am
Location: Paris, Ontario

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63073Post CANant
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:28 pm

LasiusSapien wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:38 am
shout out to www.britishants.com ordered Friday morning received Saturday afternoon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/guskkxosp4jh5nz/IMG_20190824_172615.jpg?dl=0
Awesome! Congratulations! She’s beautiful!
Keeper of:
Camponotus Pennsylvanicus

Temnothorax ambiguus/curvispinosus (Acorn ant)

Lasius Interjectus (Larger citronella ant) with host workers: L. Americanus

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CANant
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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:04 am
Location: Paris, Ontario

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63075Post CANant
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:41 pm

Nate440 wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:48 am
CANant wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:45 am
Came across this helpful list “barriers for what species”
Does anyone have any personal experience and application methods?
One thing I’ve noticed: people always say “baby powder” but be careful purchasing some baby powder is cornstarch based and not pure talcum powder that we want.

http://www.formiculture.com/topic/646-list-of-species-that-can-cross-a-specified-barrier-contributed-to-by-members/
I use extra virgin olive oil that a bought for a dollar and I works great, they hate having the oil on their feet and they just avoid it all together, at first they tried to cross it a few times and then they’d clean them self’s for like 5 minutes,( don’t worry it doesn’t hurt them), just imagine the annoyance of having oil on your bare feet! now they don’t even bother trying to cross. I re apply once or twice a week depending on how humid it is, I found when there’s more moisture it breaks up the oil after a while if you don’t re-apply. Hope that helps

I use this method with my carpenter ants and newly indentified Formica ants! To be honest I have fluon but I don’t even use it!
This is very good to know: Carpenter ants and olive oil. Mikey said that too I think. I have birds so working with fluon scares me. I think I will try the olive oil first. Thanks Nate440!
Keeper of:
Camponotus Pennsylvanicus

Temnothorax ambiguus/curvispinosus (Acorn ant)

Lasius Interjectus (Larger citronella ant) with host workers: L. Americanus

🐜❤️

LasiusSapien
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Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:37 pm
Location: Bristol

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63076Post LasiusSapien
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:43 pm

CANant wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:28 pm
LasiusSapien wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:38 am
shout out to www.britishants.com ordered Friday morning received Saturday afternoon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/guskkxosp4jh5nz/IMG_20190824_172615.jpg?dl=0
Awesome! Congratulations! She’s beautiful!
cheers mate i agree she's defo a looker had a bouns to few eggs on the cotton 1 larva 2 pupa and a nanitic :D
1x Lasius Niger - early forging stage - 60-100 workers
1x Messor Barbarus - founding stage - <20 workers
1x Camponotus Turkestanus - claustral stage - 1 nanitic + brood
1x Odontoponera Transversa - semi-claustral stage - no eggs

CANant
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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:04 am
Location: Paris, Ontario

Re: Welcome to the Camponotus Crew!

Post: # 63077Post CANant
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:44 pm

Nate440 wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:04 am
Hawkeye wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:18 am
Nate440 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:28 pm
Hey fellow ant keepers! I’m new to ant keeping and was wondering if you could help me identify this species of ant, it looks very much like a camponotus pennsyvanicus but they are much smaller, I know this because I have two Pennsylvanicus colonies already.

Does anyone know if this is a type of camponotus species? Or maybe something else, I don’t know very much when is comes to identifying specific species

Hawkeye has been very helpful to me but I think we’re both getting frustrated trying to figure out what this is, unfortunately my camera isn’t great


Image

Image
They actually look quite similar to this one too:
https://www.alexanderwild.com/Ants/Taxonomic-List-of-Ant-Genera/Camponotus/i-NCx9Q9H/A apparently the smallest carpenter ants



Oh boy I just don’t know anymore xD they really do look just like it

Image

Image

http://www.myrmecos.net/2011/07/26/how-to-tell-the-difference-between-formica-and-camponotus/

Image



They’re so little though... thanks for the help guys and for being so welcoming despite me with the shot gun posting lol

Image
That’s a great identification trick! Definitely think Formica still. Check this out. Tarheelants posted this. https://youtu.be/kHVpxARVMzw
Keeper of:
Camponotus Pennsylvanicus

Temnothorax ambiguus/curvispinosus (Acorn ant)

Lasius Interjectus (Larger citronella ant) with host workers: L. Americanus

🐜❤️

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