New Queen Messor Barbarus help

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 55407Post UnrealSparks
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:42 pm

GGUUNN wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:34 am
I am tempted to purchase a 15W heating cable. If doing so, where should I place the cable in relation to the test tube.

Or I could just wait it out until the springtime.

Suggestions/advice much appreciated.


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I'd wait for spring for that eating cable, and I'd feel safer to test it while the ants are in a formicarium, so that they can move where the temperature gradient is better suited for them.
Keeping the following species:

- Messor Barbarus
- Pheidole Pallidula
- Camponotus Barbaricus
- Lasius Niger
- Lasius Flavus
- Lasius Emarginatus

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56955Post GGUUNN
Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:51 pm

My queen has a white something in her mandibals. The test tube is bone dry. What should I do? take her out, then the cotton fill it up with water and replace the cotton and put her back?

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56958Post UnrealSparks
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:53 pm

The best way to move her to a new test tube is:
First prepare a new and fresh test tube.
After that attach it to the old one (I usually use a bit of tape to hold them together).
Then cover the new one to make it dark, while shine a bright light on the dry one.
It may take a bit of time, but the queen should move to the darker section, bringing with her the eggs.

Tell me if you'll have any problem with the procedure. ;)
Keeping the following species:

- Messor Barbarus
- Pheidole Pallidula
- Camponotus Barbaricus
- Lasius Niger
- Lasius Flavus
- Lasius Emarginatus

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56968Post Hunter36o
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:44 am

UnrealSparks wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:53 pm
First prepare a new and fresh test tube.
After that attach it to the old one (I usually use a bit of tape to hold them together).
This works but personally I find you have to check on them more often to make sure they do not suffocate. This is purely my personal preference but I use rubber tubing and I put small air holes in it so I can leave them to it. Now I have Lasius Niger so this method suits me more because I find their stubborn nature causes them to take a life time to have them move when I want/ need them to. Messor Barbarus may be more willing to move quickly to a cleaner nest site and if that is the case then the tape is perfectly fine because they won't use up the oxygen before they move. Just a consideration.
Research is important before during and even after you have established a colony. There is always time to learn and to listen to others experiences. Live by this and your ants will thrive. Fail to do so and your experience may be brief.

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56972Post UnrealSparks
Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:48 am

Hunter36o wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:44 am
UnrealSparks wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:53 pm
First prepare a new and fresh test tube.
After that attach it to the old one (I usually use a bit of tape to hold them together).
This works but personally I find you have to check on them more often to make sure they do not suffocate. This is purely my personal preference but I use rubber tubing and I put small air holes in it so I can leave them to it. Now I have Lasius Niger so this method suits me more because I find their stubborn nature causes them to take a life time to have them move when I want/ need them to. Messor Barbarus may be more willing to move quickly to a cleaner nest site and if that is the case then the tape is perfectly fine because they won't use up the oxygen before they move. Just a consideration.
Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot.
I usually only tape around a bit more than half of the gap between the two tubes, so that I don't have to worry about oxigen. I thought in the past about connecting them with silicone tubing, but since this method has always been successful for me, I never tried.
Keeping the following species:

- Messor Barbarus
- Pheidole Pallidula
- Camponotus Barbaricus
- Lasius Niger
- Lasius Flavus
- Lasius Emarginatus

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56973Post Hunter36o
Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:13 am

UnrealSparks wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:48 am
Hunter36o wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:44 am
UnrealSparks wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:53 pm
First prepare a new and fresh test tube.
After that attach it to the old one (I usually use a bit of tape to hold them together).
This works but personally I find you have to check on them more often to make sure they do not suffocate. This is purely my personal preference but I use rubber tubing and I put small air holes in it so I can leave them to it. Now I have Lasius Niger so this method suits me more because I find their stubborn nature causes them to take a life time to have them move when I want/ need them to. Messor Barbarus may be more willing to move quickly to a cleaner nest site and if that is the case then the tape is perfectly fine because they won't use up the oxygen before they move. Just a consideration.
Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot.
I usually only tape around a bit more than half of the gap between the two tubes, so that I don't have to worry about oxigen. I thought in the past about connecting them with silicone tubing, but since this method has always been successful for me, I never tried.
Ah my mistake, I took it up as you sealed it completely. Apologies for that. In that case the tape method is perfect. :)
Research is important before during and even after you have established a colony. There is always time to learn and to listen to others experiences. Live by this and your ants will thrive. Fail to do so and your experience may be brief.

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Re: New Queen Messor Barbarus help

Post: # 56978Post UnrealSparks
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:09 am

Hunter36o wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:13 am
Ah my mistake, I took it up as you sealed it completely. Apologies for that. In that case the tape method is perfect. :)
You don't have to apologize, I'm thankful you brought that up, otherwise I would have missed the detail! :)
Keeping the following species:

- Messor Barbarus
- Pheidole Pallidula
- Camponotus Barbaricus
- Lasius Niger
- Lasius Flavus
- Lasius Emarginatus

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