Help, she's dying... I think

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Hunter36o
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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49584Post Hunter36o
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:52 am

That is actually a really good and practical idea. And the fact u have two makes experimenting so much better
I know they are related to both, but when you back track wasps and ants share a closer ancestor then bees. It's like bees made their split earlier before ants and wasps went their sperate ways and yeah you are spot on, males are sometimes described as wasp like in appearance which back up the historical record for the closer ancestor.

I love being on this forum for these reasons I like when people are willing to do practical experiments that are of course not harmful to the ants. Please let us know own your findings on this light experiment as it could provide the rest of us with some interesting results that could aid all ant keepers new and old.
Officially caring for 4 Lasius colonies :D :D :D

Founding stage:
11x Lasius Niger
1x Myrmica Rubra
1x Myrmica ??

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49588Post AntsLuxembourg
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:40 am

Alright. You could try to lure the ants out with some sugar or some honey. They will take it. Not sure if you can feed them achorn syrup like the canadian tree juice. The ants will probably find it and get it. If you want to have some action going perhaps take a bit of grass and pock a bit arround the nest. But tell your kids not to do that to much with ants cause they are still living creatures. Like don't harm them cause of Ant Love forever :D

Perhaps try the honey first. It's much saver for the ants and they get a little something for their show. ;D

Good to know that you found her way off from that nest. It is a good indicator for a fertile queen. About that thing with when well my queen drop her wings. Well. I got arround 10-12 fertile queens. Some still got their wings along with their workers. I don't think that all of them will drop them. Perhaps by accident but I think I got some fashion queens. ;D

Can show you later and upload a short video to youtube about that colony. :D
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

argh226
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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49590Post argh226
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:46 am

That would be amazing!

As for what I know out of AntsCanada videos is that we don’t need to provide anything but water and clean tubes to Queens until they get their nanite (not sure?, the very first workers) and then you'll need to provide some form of food/nutriments.

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49598Post AntsLuxembourg
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:47 am

yes. That's right. The queen can survive for a long period with no food. And only after she got her first workers (nanitics) they need some honey or something. Basicly whatever they eat.
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49602Post AntsLuxembourg
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:38 am

Alright I will do a little stream on twitch if someone of you wants to have a look. You can ask me some questions and I will try to answer them as goods as possible. :P
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

argh226
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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49604Post argh226
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:26 pm

Will have a look, but I dont think I'll be available at that time... because of the time zone? When do you plan to do it?

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49607Post AntsLuxembourg
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:00 pm

It was already running after I wrote this and it still is. https://www.twitch.tv/antsluxembourg
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

argh226
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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49611Post argh226
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:50 pm

I can answer to forum while at job, but no video tho. :)

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49635Post Darkhero0987
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:31 pm

argh226 wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:52 am
I will try tonight... if she still moving, but I fear the worst now :(

In the tube : https://ibb.co/ma102z

Could it be a lack of oxygen? Too much air tight?
thats alot of room for her it should be mostly water in the tube this is usely a good amount https://imgur.com/eJM9DI0 maybe even less

do your ants hibernate she maybe going into a hibernate period. She may also have not been mated and bay actually be dieing its hard to say if your worried about the cotten being to much put a little else in and make sure its loose not a loose fit but the cotten has been played with abit so its loosend up and has a lot of breath
Founding:
Formica Subsericea,
3x Lasius sp

Keeping
2x Camponotus Novaeboracensis

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Re: Help, she's dying... I think

Post: # 49944Post AntsLuxembourg
Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:03 am

Darkhero0987 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:31 pm
argh226 wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:52 am
I will try tonight... if she still moving, but I fear the worst now :(

In the tube : https://ibb.co/ma102z

Could it be a lack of oxygen? Too much air tight?
thats alot of room for her it should be mostly water in the tube this is usely a good amount https://imgur.com/eJM9DI0 maybe even less

do your ants hibernate she maybe going into a hibernate period. She may also have not been mated and bay actually be dieing its hard to say if your worried about the cotten being to much put a little else in and make sure its loose not a loose fit but the cotten has been played with abit so its loosend up and has a lot of breath
I think this is actually something worth to discuss to be honest. I mean I myself try to keep the testtube at a 50-50%. Like half the testtube is filled with water and the rest if for the queen to hydro and thermo regulat. So far my queens seem to like it this way. It also gives me some space to work with. Like I want to offer them food but how when the testtube is packed with workers ready to burst out? I've seen some people doing testtubes packed with workers which looks like they are about to get squeezed to dead by the upcomming brood which looks pretty sad and distrubing to me.

That's basicly my opinion but so far it works perfectly fine for me. :D
Doing some proper research is the best way to start an antcolony. After the research you can still go and fetsh a colony from one of your local GAN-Farmers.

Founding colonies:
10 - Lasius Niger Colony
1 - Messor Barbarus

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